IDF rules:
OK things to do:
- Kill children,
- Rape women,
- Kill prisoners,
- Destroy peoples property,
- Use iPhone.
Not OK things to do:
- Use Android OS
If ever anyone still doesn’t get how Western countries still support Israel despite the populations of those countries widely hating Israel, this shit is why.
They have blackmail on all our politicians, but moreover they can sell their domestic surveillance spy tools (such as malware) to bad actors (such as the US gov) to spy on their own citizens too.
Israel is the #1 perpetrator and exporter of fascism and police states.
I thought Apple doesn’t let the bad guys … oh wait, that’s just in Movies and TV shows.
It’s also just not true, the villain/killer/etc has iPhones in many shows and movies already, including multiple AppleTV shows.
Androids are obviously Hamas
Or Hez…
The reason for this is because Pegasus is better used on iPhones than Androids and you can flash GrapheneOS on them while iPhones are locked down.
Guess we now know what the “i” stands for.
Guess Blackberry security was right all along
I was already thinking of getting a Linux phone next, this is helping to seal the deal. Fuck Apple the genocide enablers.
please do explain how Apple is doing anything here. If Israel wants to provide their military with iPhones they’re going to no matter what Apple does.
They don’t have to do business with/in Israel.
This is an American company. They will do what their leaders from Israel want because no company seems to have the stones to tell them to pound sand.
That still will not stop a nation state (especially Israel) from getting their hands on Apple devices.
Physically obtaining the devices is insufficient; they need ongoing software updates and other network services too.
The IDF could/would absolutely not be doing this if they did not trust that Apple is a very committed partner.
You can also observe from Apple’s job listings that they are.
Go ahead and post the same link for Google job listings. I’ll wait.
Having jobs in the country has nothing to do with being a “committed partner”. You’re making up connections that are most likely not there. Same for anyone claiming the same about Google. Microsoft on the other hand is directly selling and assisting the IDF, they are a committed partner.
I think you misunderstood me
Go ahead and post the same link for Google job listings. I’ll wait.
My comment was in response to your comments (bolded below) in this thread:
I was already thinking of getting a Linux phone next, this is helping to seal the deal. Fuck Apple the genocide enablers.
please do explain how Apple is doing anything here. If Israel wants to provide their military with iPhones they’re going to no matter what Apple does.
They don’t have to do business with/in Israel.
That still will not stop a nation state (especially Israel) from getting their hands on Apple devices.
My point was not to say that Google is better than Apple here - in fact, unlike Apple (as far as I know), Google has actually built AI tools specifically tailored for Israel’s genocidal business requirements.
My point is that if Apple wanted to boycott a country (which in the case of Israel they obviously don’t, which job listings at their R&D centers are just one of many points of evidence of) it would actually make it difficult-to-impossible for any substantial part of the boycotted country’s government to rely on using iPhones.
(Unlike Android derivatives which can easily be used without direct reliance on Google’s services…)
As an aside, while I would not use iOS (due to it being proprietary), it is hard to dispute that (for most adversaries, at least) compromising it is generally much more expensive/difficult/unlikely than Android. So, given that Apple is very friendly to them, the IDF’s policy decision to use iPhones makes sense.
Seeing as how pulling out of a country is incredibly difficult, I would not in any way say that that is cooperating with Israel. And Israel has the number one teams that crack iPhone security so I’m fairly confident that even if Apple locked down their phones from Israel, they would still manage to use them. Of course it would be better if Apple even tried to do what you suggest, but in actuality it’s a logistical and most likely futile effort.
Mind sharing any linux phones candidates you are considering?
Android is technically based on Linux so maybe go with a custom ROM like Grapheme? I’ve found the experience on it to be enjoyable personally and feel a lot better about my security even if I don’t lock it down as hard as some people.
PinePhone.
FLX1s from furilabs.com is the one I’m going to try.
Having to rely on webapps is a pain but Steve Jobs was right after all.
This can mean anything, it’s possible they wanted just 1 platform so that their expertise is focused. And android being a little more open may have been seen (biased) as a disadvantage (i.e. enemies are more prone to find a vulnerability). We can argue with it. It’s like the counterpart of people thinking that open source is per default more safe because of being open source… It’s a correlation that can’t prove anything…
When Linux phone?
Nao.
portuguese?
Nah, just being an internet idiot and purposely misspelling ‘now’.
Pretty sure android is Linux, just really grown seperate
Doesn’t count. :P
So Android phones are anti-Semitic now?
I’m guessing it’s just for the security?
The first words of the article:
So this is interesting. Just weeks after Google’s campaign to promote Android as being more secure than iPhone, the smartphone battle has taken a sudden twist.
Right. Well, if Google says it is more secure, it must be true right?? I mean, it’s not remotely possible that Google has a reason to sell its vict- I mean, customers on its “security”.
Oh boy this is great, now we can call iPhone users as zionists, any excuse to demonize Apple People, I’m down for it
The Israeli military has decided to ban Android phones for senior officers
“Under the expected order, commanders from the rank of lieutenant colonel and above will be permitted to use only iPhones for official communications. The step is aimed at reducing the risk of intrusions on senior officers’ handsets, according to the report.”
So it seems that Israel (one of the leading country in hackers spies for hire) thinks that there’s a lot « Hezbollah honey pot » that target android device
Israeli company Cellebrite sells a device to extract data from locked phones, both Android and iPhones afaik. So indeed I’m guessing their government knows some stuff about the security of both platforms.
Fun fact: comments mentioning Cellebrite get immediately shadow-hidden on Reddit, or at least in some of the main subs.
In 2021, Moxie Marlinspike, creator of the encrypted messaging app Signal, pointed to several vulnerabilities in Cellebrite’s UFED and Physical Analyzer software that allowed for arbitrary code execution on Windows computers running the software. One exploit he detailed involved the UFED scanning a specially formatted file, which could then be used to execute arbitrary code on the computer running the UFED. Marlinspike wrote that the code could then “[modify] not just the Cellebrite report being created in that scan, but also “all previous and future generated Cellebrite reports” from all previously scanned devices and all future scanned devices in any arbitrary way.”[27] Marlinspike also found that Cellebrite software was bundled with out-of-date FFmpeg DLL files from 2012, which lacked over 100 subsequent security updates. Windows Installer packages, extracted from the Windows installer for iTunes and signed by Apple, were also found, which he said raised legal concerns.[28] Cellebrite responded that the company “is committed to protecting the integrity of our customers’ data, and we continually audit and update our software in order to equip our customers with the best digital intelligence solutions available.”[29] The report by Signal followed an announcement by Cellebrite in 2020 that it had developed technology to crack encrypted messages in the Signal app, a claim the company later retracted and downplayed.[30][31] The announcement by Marlinspike raised questions about the integrity of data extracted by the software,[32][33] and prompted Cellebrite to patch some of the vulnerabilities found by Signal and to remove full support for analyzing iPhones.[34][35]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite
Sounds like it is just malware to me.
Vulnerable software is different from malware.
Iirc there was also the part of the story where the exploit for Cellebrite’s thing was included in Signal, and Marlinspike said that data on any device scanning Signal with Cellebrite software would be poisoned.
What I’m hearing is that even if you aren’t a Signal user, you might benefit from having Signal installed on your device?
I’m guessing things might’ve changed since then, as this story is pretty old. I doubt it that they gotten newer versions of Cellebrite to screw them again.
The Genius Bar are much more violent these days.
