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    Ads “destroyed” TV. Streaming only became popular because it meant no fucking ads. Now ads are destroying streaming. Circle of capitalist life, I suppose.

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      Streaming only became popular because it meant no fucking ads.

      Really? It had nothing to do with being able to watch media on demand?

      Now ads are destroying streaming

      What? You realize every streaming platform has an ad-free option?

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        Yup, that’s why I subscribed to Netflix. I refused to get a TV sub because of all the stupid ads. Netflix offered enough of a selection and had no ads. I cancelled my Disney+ sub because I wasn’t willing to pay the increased “no ads” price, and I’m trying to convince my wife to drop Netflix because of the increased “no ads” price. We also had problems with both service because we downloaded a bunch of videos to watch offline a week or two in advance (we had back-to-back trips), and we couldn’t access our content offline when we needed it.

        Ads can suck on a fat one, I’m going back to buying physical media. I don’t care too much about the selection, I care about not having ads. I pay for Nebula because, you guessed it, no ads. I would pay for YouTube Premium, but their app sucks for offline viewing, and I’m better off with alternatives (e.g. Grayjay is a much better experience offline than YouTube Premium). I’m willing to pay extra to avoid ads, and the market seems intent on abusing me for it, so I’m noping out.

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          I wasn’t willing to pay the increased “no ads” price, and I’m trying to convince my wife to drop Netflix because of the increased “no ads” price.

          So the pricing is killing them (for you) not the ads.

          would pay for YouTube Premium, but their app sucks for offline viewing

          I agree with you on that one. Their app is absolutely horrendous, for all types of viewing.

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            So the pricing is killing them (for you) not the ads.

            No, the fact that they totally went back on their whole shtick (ad-free streaming) made me want to drop their service. If they didn’t have an ad-supported tier and increased the price, I’d probably still be with them. But since they have an ad-supported tier, and I know a thing or two about ad-revenue, I know they’re making far less through ads than the difference between the ad-supported and ad-free tiers, so they’re just fleecing me because they can.

            If it was merely price, I would’ve left long ago because we honestly don’t watch that much Netflix (we kept it because it’s convenient). It’s the slap in the face and the apparent push toward ad-supported viewing that alienated me. I’d honestly prefer to pay more for a service that refuses to use advertising at all and has worse selection (e.g. Nebula, which is worse in pretty much every way vs YouTube, except creator compensation and lack of ads). I pay for Tuta, which is a worse experience in almost every way vs gmail precisely because it doesn’t harvest my data. If I was more concerned w/ price, I’d still be with gmail. Netflix showing ads means they have an incentive to sell my personal data, and I want nothing to do with it.

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              the fact that they totally went back on their whole shtick (ad-free streaming) made me want to drop their service.

              But…they didn’t. They still have ad-free streaming.

              If it was merely price, I would’ve left long ago

              So…you don’t have a problem with the price, you’re just mad that they offer an ad-supported tier for other people?

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                So…you don’t have a problem with the price, you’re just mad that they offer an ad-supported tier for other people?

                I don’t like the price, but yes, my main problem is that they have an ad-supported tier. That means their focus has shifted from providing great content to attracting advertisers.

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          Did you actually read that?

          This will make the cheapest commercial-free Netflix plan $15.49/month in the US.

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    Streaming is the best thing that happened to TV.

    The fragmentation and exclusivity bullshit sucks, but streaming, on demand, in any length of time I want to spend in a sitting, without ads? I barely watched TV before streaming, because it wasn’t worth the downsides.

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    After Adam Conover said, “…mastodon is the linux of social media, no one will use it…”, I stopped listening to his opinion.

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      He is on Mastodon @adamconover@mastodon.social though.

      And I do agree with the first part of the statement…but I think a good chunk of us here use Linux so the latter part falls flat.

      Perhaps we’ll see it similar moreso to Unix. Where activity pub is Unix and is used around the world. But Linux is still used by a small portion of the population.

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        He is on Mastodon @adamconover@mastodon.social though.

        He’s also apparently someone who streams video on YouTube!

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    When I moved out my first decision was to not get cable anymore. Streaming wasn’t even a factor in that decision as Netflix was only just starting here. I just didn’t care about all the drivel broken up by increasingly long commercial blocks. Lack of quality killed TV for me, not streaming.

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        Unfortunately in my country HBO was only available as an add-on, so you’d need an expensive cable subscription you didn’t want and then pay extra for the concent you’d actually wanted to see. Pretty bad deal.

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    We would be far better off without TV. Sadly, TV is still alive and busy brainwashing millions as we speak.

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    Yar Har Fiddle Dee Dee! Being a Pirate is alright with me! Do what you want cuz a Pirate is Free! You are a Pirate!

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    I think there’s way too many salty nerds here that either didn’t see the video or didn’t even get the point Adam was making.

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      didn’t even get the point Adam was making.

      I don’t think you understood the point the peasants are making in these here comments