There’s distinction between targeted ads and community ads.

Mainstream internet is bad for targeted ads and for-profit site that plaster ads as maximum as possible.

Fediverse instance like Misskey.io runs ads, but all of them community ads. Letting their community promote their indie games, manga serialization, artbook release, online event gathering, etc.

Among every server that “do just fine,” there are more instances that are just gone for not having proper funding, especially for non-Western instance where paying for social media in not a common thing. I’m from Indonesian, and almost every Indonesian instance are cease to exist except for Misskey.id.

While Mastodon does not support ads, other fediverse software like Misskey support it. Misskey.io, the second biggest fedi instance after Mastodon.social, runs ads and subscription simutaniously.

Their ads is merely community ads. Letting their community promote their indie games, manga serialization, artbook release, online event gathering, etc. I think that might be replicatable for Western instance like Mastodon.art or Pixelfed.art.

The notion that Mastodon (and/or) Twitter as public conversation is not universal.

There’s a lot of people, especially in other language that use the social media as microblog or casual coversation. I’m Indonesian, and a lot of people here using Twitter as “anon” account for random rambling (basically microblog) without even interacting with anyone (except IRL friend).

Even Mastodon (and other fedi software) has feature for followers only post or quiet posting (cannot be viewed in live feed, or discovery).

Mastodon users don’t wanna be searchable

Debatable. People don’t want their private account searchable. Creators and news account want their account and their post to be discoverable.

The subscription model rarely works.

It’s not that the subscription model doesn’t work. It’s the investor that demands things to grow even more all the time. There are plenty of service that simply deliver good stuff without investor demand and ended being sustainable for years.

Fedi becomes more accepting of ads

At least, some non-Western fediverse instance runs ads. Notably the second biggest instance in fediverse, Misskey.io. Their ads are community ads, like promoting indie games, vtuber, comic books, IRL gallery event, etc. They also did subscription providing additional cosmetics like Discord. Everyone’s happy.

Yeah, I acknowledge that.

It’s just there’s a concern that any FOSS project that developed by non-English speaker will “force taken” by another “Western” maintainer. If we want fediverse to be truly inclusive, language barrier is something should be taken care for further maintreamization.

Maybe we can learn from English Asia community (usually on Facebook group) that already practicing multi-language community, where each people can speak their own language and still properly moderated and connected.

I see. At least making them optional is good, especially for political context.

For creator related stuff, I can see instance like Misskey.design community benefitting from this tracker.

Having info “65 people visit this site from Lemmy.world” doesn’t seem to be that invasive tho.

I can see blogger and other creator utilize this to connect with community.

I wish a lot of Western fediverse community helps Misskey dev in documentation and development.

It’s sad that sometimes they don’t want help Misskey community to globalize, and just soft-fork and even hard-forking the software. Misskey community is desperately need global contributor.

The thing is, sometimes the immigrant are not corporate. They’re just groups of average people that cut all the protected forest to make a new home and uncontrolled killing of animals.

They don’t respect local rules at all.

This don’t really happen in the West, but it can happen in several parts of Asia or Africa.

That’s why ethnocentrism ended prevalent in these area.

I still don’t get actual “left” and “right” definition by Westerner.

For example, people that support native people to be protected from encrouchment of their forest, as well as unmitigated immigration that will drive out them will considered both “left” and “right” side from Westerner.

Some Westerner also often assume their solution of problem is “the best” while all I can see is further division of society.

Please elaborate.

Both are just corrupt parties that doesn’t want to help people.

“Left” or “Right” grouping is Western centric tho.

From my perspective as Indonesian, it’s weird that Westerner lump politics into separate group instead working together for a solution that caters to everyone.

NeoDB itself is a clone of Bangumi, a Chinese media tracker site.

Bangumi mainly focuses on ACG culture (similar to anime-manga but not Japanese centric), combining movie, TV series, music, games, animation, and comic.

Hashtag is only usable for small contained community. Some instance already too big that hashtag is not work.

Especially multi language instance. Some word or phrase on hashtag can have multiple meaning depending on the language.

The point is, Lemmy, Reddit, and other related platform are overwhelmingly American.

People often just assume things with American mindset. Especially for hard topic like religious harmony, ethnic discrimination, immigration, etc.

Every social media is collective of thousands of social bubbles.

While I advocating for federated SNS, I personally rarely encounter any toxicity on internet except when I interact with westerner (especially Americans). I carefully choose who I follow and interact, and the algorithm are trained with my interaction to put content that not toxic and relevant to me.

On fediverse alone, I have multiple account that delivers entirely different social experience. My English mastodon.social account that just slightly touch Western politics are thousands times toxic. Even my personal regional political discourse feed on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook are not as toxic as Western politics on fediverse.

Instead of being “bad,” I consider ActivityPub as not being mature yet.

Other internet protocol like HTTP or email are also really basic on its early inception, but it later adding so many features and capabilities to be more modern and flexible.

Give it enough time, and ActivityPub will be mature enough for varied use cases.

At least for Japanese users, they want to see content they love from creators relevant to them. Creators = illustrator, comic artist, photographer, cosplayer, writer, etc.

Creators want a stable platform that allows them to widen their reach and potentially making more money.

Mastodon at the moment are tend to be hostile against creators that wants to monetize their work. Not to forget, the creator you want to follow are on defederated or blocks your instance for random admin drama.

But hey, at least fediverse software like Misskey actually trying to serve these community. Like allowing community ads (like promoting indie comics, vtuber, or social event) and trying to be stable by resolving any potential instance problem together with zero drama. Misskey community also often have tendency to “decoupling from Western tech supremacy”

I recall it was just student that do script attack.

Some Misskey instance like Misskey.design, Misskey.io, and Misskey.id also got their attack several months ago.

It even reach mainstream news outlet: https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/20/spam-attack-on-twitter-x-rival-mastodon-highlights-fediverse-vulnerabilities/

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