Patching in new DRM years after launch seems unlikely to impact pirates, but actively harms legitimate users who play on Steam Deck or mod games they paid for.
DRM doesn’t purge itself automatically. I don’t know how to spell it any clearer but if the problem is that DRM continues to exist, and it is solved when DRM is removed, then DRM itself is the problem.
And I speak as someone who lost my official purchase of Tron Evolution to outdated DRM.
I don’t think you are arguing in favor of cracking groups, as much as I’m appreciative of them.
I don’t know how to spell it any clearer but if the problem is that DRM continues to exist, and it is solved when DRM is removed, then DRM itself is the problem.
Once again you have it backwards. If the DRM is removed then the problem you cited never existed and there’s no problem to be solved.
And I speak as someone who lost my official purchase of Tron Evolution
I don’t understand what purpose your anecdotes are supposed to serve here.
Oh boy, I wonder what’s the relevance of being a first-hand witness of what happens when DRM that doesn’t purge itself, doesn’t get removed and loses support. I wonder how differently that would have gone if DRM had never been used instead.
Welp, who knows what’s the point of it all. A complete mystery huh 🤷♂️
I have been finding out that tiring my fingers with people who only pretend to be discussing but gloss over what’s being said is a waste of time.
I’m acting like an ass because you are acting like an ass. Isn’t it obvious how relevant it is to bring up how DRM personally affected me? Do you actually have a reason to say why losing a game I have bought isn’t actually the fault of DRM, or are you just going to pretend it doesn’t matter? Be it me or anyone else, we can still access games that were abandoned by the developers just fine, as long as DRM doesn’t get in the way,
If you are gonna repeat yourself with “Once again you have it backwards” don’t even bother. If you really mean to talk it out, don’t avoid the point.
I have been finding out that tiring my fingers with people who only pretend to be discussing but gloss over what’s being said is a waste of time.
What are you suggesting that I supposedly “glossed over”?
Isn’t it obvious how relevant it is to bring up how DRM personally affected me?
It’s obviously not obvious, like at all. I mean if your intention was to create an emotional argument and tell me that you can’t be objective, then mission accomplished. That’s the only takeaway I have without further explanation.
Do you actually have a reason to say why losing a game I have bought isn’t actually the fault of DRM
Uhhhh I’ve already explained the reason. It seems you may have glossed over it.
If you are gonna repeat yourself with “Once again you have it backwards” don’t even bother.
What words would you prefer I use when you make the same mistake twice?
If you really mean to talk it out, don’t avoid the point.
Again I’ll ask what point it is that you think I’ve avoided?
I think you’re misunderstanding things. You trust these companies to do what is best for the consumer. That’s not how the rest of us, or the companies you’re defending, consider things. Their interest is in the bottom dollar. If screwing you makes a buck, they’ll do it. Trusting them to do the right thing is a major player in enshittification.
I mean of course they probably won’t, but again that is a problem with implementation and not an inherent problem with DRM.
It is an inherent problem with DRM, because if there was no DRM there wouldn’t be a possibility of this happening.
You have it backwards. It’s not an inherent problem of DRM because it’s not a requirement for it to have DRM forever.
DRM doesn’t purge itself automatically. I don’t know how to spell it any clearer but if the problem is that DRM continues to exist, and it is solved when DRM is removed, then DRM itself is the problem.
And I speak as someone who lost my official purchase of Tron Evolution to outdated DRM.
I don’t think you are arguing in favor of cracking groups, as much as I’m appreciative of them.
It doesn’t have to.
Once again you have it backwards. If the DRM is removed then the problem you cited never existed and there’s no problem to be solved.
I don’t understand what purpose your anecdotes are supposed to serve here.
Oh boy, I wonder what’s the relevance of being a first-hand witness of what happens when DRM that doesn’t purge itself, doesn’t get removed and loses support. I wonder how differently that would have gone if DRM had never been used instead.
Welp, who knows what’s the point of it all. A complete mystery huh 🤷♂️
God forbid you should actually explain it rather than acting like an ass and ignoring the question.
I have been finding out that tiring my fingers with people who only pretend to be discussing but gloss over what’s being said is a waste of time.
I’m acting like an ass because you are acting like an ass. Isn’t it obvious how relevant it is to bring up how DRM personally affected me? Do you actually have a reason to say why losing a game I have bought isn’t actually the fault of DRM, or are you just going to pretend it doesn’t matter? Be it me or anyone else, we can still access games that were abandoned by the developers just fine, as long as DRM doesn’t get in the way,
If you are gonna repeat yourself with “Once again you have it backwards” don’t even bother. If you really mean to talk it out, don’t avoid the point.
What are you suggesting that I supposedly “glossed over”?
It’s obviously not obvious, like at all. I mean if your intention was to create an emotional argument and tell me that you can’t be objective, then mission accomplished. That’s the only takeaway I have without further explanation.
Uhhhh I’ve already explained the reason. It seems you may have glossed over it.
What words would you prefer I use when you make the same mistake twice?
Again I’ll ask what point it is that you think I’ve avoided?
I think you’re misunderstanding things. You trust these companies to do what is best for the consumer. That’s not how the rest of us, or the companies you’re defending, consider things. Their interest is in the bottom dollar. If screwing you makes a buck, they’ll do it. Trusting them to do the right thing is a major player in enshittification.
I think you’re misunderstanding things. I absolutely do not. Quite the opposite, actually. Hence why I said “of course they probably won’t”.