• kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    2 days ago

    Tim Harford mentioned this in his 2016 book “Messy”.

    They just wanna call it AI and make it sound like some mysterious intelligence we can’t comprehend.

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      5 hours ago

      It sorta is.

      A key way that human intelligence works is to break a problem down into smaller components that can be solved individually. This is in part due to the limited computational ability of the human brain; there’s not enough there to tackle the complete problem.

      However, there’s no particular reason AI would need to be limited that way, and it often isn’t. Expert Go players see this in AI for that game. The AI tends to make all sorts of moves early on that don’t seem to be following the usual logic, and it’s because it’s laid out the complete game in its “head” and going directly for the goal. Go is basically impossible for humans to win against the best AIs at this point.

      This is a different kind of intelligence than we’re used to, but there’s no reason to discount it as invalid.

      See the paper Understanding Human Intelligence through Human Limitations

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      13 hours ago

      Except we can’t build what we can’t comprehend that also works.

      The problem here is that people with power to direct funds are, more often than not, utterly ignorant in building anything.

      I think where all this is generally directed is a society, like in Asimov’s Foundation or Plato’s Republic (with additional step), where people competent in building something are reduced to a small caste, most of them with local, not professional, competencies, like priests, and with a techno-religion centered on that “AI”. This is a hierarchical structure very vulnerable to, well, that kind of powerful people.

      The majority will work non-essential jobs (like in Heinlein’s Door Into Summer), which do not give them any kind of power, the soldier caste will work the military, and the builder caste will work the technology, and the philosopher caste will be those powerful people. The difference with Plato is in having that first group of people which does not fit into any main caste. By Plato they would all be builder (worker) caste, but that would create a problem with the attempt to make it a religion and a hierarchical monopolized structure. The builder caste should be small.

      You might see a whole lot of problems with that idea (which still seems to be attempted), that’s because the people from whom it comes don’t understand how civilization works and that instruments change the rules constantly, not just to the point they can understand.