To see the original discussion, you can see this thread: https://lemmy.ca/post/8488573
To open the post on your instance you can go to !lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world and see the recent top posts, or use an app/frontend/ browser extension (ex. !instance_assistant@lemmy.ca)
Alternatively, here is the screenshot from the post.
I also wanted to share this tip for how you can filter for Lemmy posts when searching:
- Search using
site:home_instance. So if I wanted to find recommended phones, I could gosite:lemmy.ca recommended phones. Since every instance has its own collection of posts, you will be getting results from all over Lemmy. The limitation is that you won’t see content from instances that aren’t federated with yours, but you probably didn’t want to see that stuff anyway since you picked your instance for a reason. You can also put any instance into the search if you wanted different results.
Question to everyone, what does Lemmy need to make it easier for people to find content? What are the implications of the Fediverse on how people might find content in the future?
One thing is that people are more likely to get posts from the larger instances, likely because more people are linking to them and opening those links? Another thought was the common complaint about how our post links aren’t community specific. While I can search for posts using the method above, I can’t search within a specific community like I can with Reddit (ex. I can’t search site:lemmy.ca/c/Vancouver recommended restaurants
EDIT: The issues for it are here, looks like the devs are good with it now and someone just needs to implement it:
We did it, Reddit
Watch spez squirm every time lemmy improves
spez wants to remove Reddit from Google actively, so at least for this specifically I sincerely doubt he minds. Of course, the main reason he wants thatis only that he wants to inflate Reddit’s perceived investor value, so not sure what that even helps. But eh.
Spez is a maroon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Now, off to solve a bombing
Reddit, we’re coming for you. Better watch your back. Sleep with one eye open. 😏
Clutching your upvotes tight
Exit old.reddit.com
Enter https://old.lemmy.zip/
And old.lemmy.ca, in fact enter all the great instances running multiple front ends :)
Let’s fucking go
Swag. The more we show up in search, the more people will be asking “what the heck is Lemmy?” Some of 'em will join.
Well then. Here. We. Go.
I have been regularly sharing shit with friends that I see in Lemmy, and they always said to me why my links always have weird names and domains and shit… so I proceed to explain and we get to nowhere.
Anyway this is people that weren’t even into Reddit, so that people are the harder to get, IMHO.
It really was silly of Lemmy to not have community specific links, it’s even more confusing that way. Now it’s just a bunch of
{weird-domain}/post/{number}
You never know what it is unless you have link previews
Yeah hopefully its possible to change that without breaking anything
without breaking anything
That wouldn’t be the Lemmy experience, no hating here 😀
Thanks!
Sounds like a “them” problem, you keep doing what you’re doing. Maybe they’ll eventually get it, maybe not. Unless you give up sharing content with them entirely, of course, but that’s your choice.
It would help a lot more with SEO-friendly URLs. https://lemmy.ml/post/7417691 is not very SEO friendly at all.
there’s an issue here on that which could use support and boosting!
would the suggestion be to have the post title in the URL?
That would be ideal, you’d have some sort of slugged title in the URL, yeah.
The fediverse is no longer just a silly parallel universe now.
oh man i saw “google” and “+” and got nostalgia for early days google+
I miss circles
the photowalks were the best thing on social media… the original circles were great too. :(
This is the first time I’ve ever seen positive sentiment for Google+ online.
I come from early YouTube where it was forced upon us from above, so I’m genuinely curious as to what positives you see in it.
Good! I love it here and I think others will too :)
Would I be contributing if I was using a mobile app like eternity or voyager?
Yes
Activity and comment contribute
I have a question, I have posted with my lemmy.zip acccount to a community hosted on feddit.ro, and when I search the title only lemmy.world appears, even tho i didnt post it there, any idea why?
It means many people are using lemmy.world instance to view your post instead of lemmy.zip or feddit.ro.
Every instance stores what are essentially copies of everything it’s users are subscribed to. So when you post “to” feddit.ro, you’re posting to the copy on lemmy.zip. Similarly, Lemmy.world has their own copy (that for whatever reason is ranking higher in search) because someone there is presumeably subscribed to the community.
Adding a bit more to the other comments
The post should exist on all 3 instances (as well as any other instance federated with feddit.ro). However lemmy.world is bigger and so more people are likely linking to /from that instance, which mean Google is indexing it with higher priority.
The other instances should probably show up over time?
Hello from kbin… (federated here too)
But this poses an interesting dilemma for Google, potentially to top 100 results could end up just being the same post observed on many Lemmy and kbin instances.I think Google tries to prevent that, which is interesting because I don’t know how that will work
You can post with an archive?
One big issue that Lemmy has because it’s a distributed service is the dilution of results.
For example, there is only one Reddit domain (that people use to access the service) but there are hundreds/thousands of Lemmy domains and the dilution will continue to increase as Lemmy’s popularity increases. It’s either that or there will only be a couple of Lemmy instances that will dominate all of Lemmy.
Did the same thing, now the linked thread is shown and not the discution
That’s cool. I seem to have issues finding this post, or the top post of the day (https://sh.itjust.works/post/8365139) by searching:
site:sh.itjust.works After watching the 2nd episode of 11th season of FuturamaAnd I’m not getting the correct result. Am I doing it right, but there’s something else affecting the results (top of day for lemmy isn’t as popular as needed to show up on google, bing, nor DDG)? or am I making a mistake somewhere?Looks like it’s appearing now! Just needed some time I guess
I don’t think the instance is the issue like the other comment is suggesting (although I don’t quite understand the specifics of how it works). I’m playing around with it myself right now
If I search
site:sh.itjust.works Helloand set it to 24 hours, I do see posts. So timing should be ok tooUpdate: So I think what’s happening is that the post needs to go through a few stages when it’s on a different instance
- Someone posts on a foreign instance (https://foreign.example.com/post/123444
- Someone on your instance views the post, which generates a link on your instance for that post (ex. https://example.com/post/135799)
- Google indexes your home instance and grabs that post
So we’re probably between steps 2 and 3 right now?
Reddit is talking about hiding Reddit from Google. I hope they do that because it will let Lemmy start to replace Reddit as the go to source for non-SEO, real-human answers.
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I don’t see how a site can choose which search engine it appears on
Also this feels like the elitist “I don’t want the NORMIES on my site, only I know what’s best”
technically most crawlers abide by robots.txt so if you really wanted you could forbid the google crawler but it would be silly to since it’s one of the most popular engines
Interesting, didn’t know that thanks :)
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Which would make it so it doesn’t appear in any search, which is also what Reddit is considering doing
Now THAT would be speedrunning the enshittification. Just DRM Lemmy
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