Those programs do have an effect on pricing. Not 1 to 1 with the cost subsidization and even if it does there’s plenty of arguments to keep programs like that around.

However I’d rather see moves made to encourage positive behaviors, like purchasing an electric vehicle, that didn’t translate into a dealership subsidy.

Yeah, this is my issue with the government incentives for EVs, especially now that they are more common and can be deducted from the sale price. Most retailers are just jacking up the price to whatever the cap for the rebate is while pretending it’s still a good deal.

This is something I think gets lost in discussions a lot. The USA is massive and fragmented, the fragmentation being intentional with state individuality.

I remember a German family that thought they could easily do LA, Vegas, and the Grand Canyon in a couple of days.