This was a rather long time ago, my gin and oude en jonge jenever collection has rather grown since then lol

I think so but I’m not American, I’m British

From a 2003 entry in urban dictionary:

• Growler

Female pubic region, having gone into a state of repair/part of male mating call

Get your growler out

Oh of course yeah, if it doubt then it is a safe bet to assume that. From a 2003 entry in urban dictionary:

• Growler

Female pubic region, having gone into a state of repair/part of male mating call

Get your growler out

I was in North Carolina for work recently and one lady was talking about her local brewery where she could “grab her growler” and head over there. Took me a while to recover from laughing at that one.

My Dutch friend. We were on discord playing guild wars and the topic of alcohol came up. The majority of the group are british and we were talking about different drinks like whisky, gin etc and the question came up “so what famous dutch spirits are there?”.

There was a bit of silence before he said, “I don’t know, William of Orange?”. Turns out he had never heard of the word ‘spirit’ to refer to high proof alcohol before so selected a famous historical dutch figure.

I met a Theresa Green once, she went by Terry.

Funniest two I remember were Crystal Poon and Anis Turki.

Out of curiosity rather than necessity, are there any activitypub based messaging apps (i.e matrix/discord-like)?

One not listed is Ibis (https://ibis.wiki/) which hasn’t had much traction. Honestly unsure of how useful it is as a direct wikipedia replacement but i can see it as a cool idea for a bunch of related communities that would otherwise be on separate wikis.

I knew somebody who used the more British version in a game - Hugh Jarse

That is more than fair enough, as said, not trying to get you to donate or anything, especially if you already donate your time. Just hoping to put something out there that some of us really do take the donations seriously and we try to be as transparent as possible with everything, I just wish more projects would do that to shake some of the potential mistrust.

Whilst I do understand that sentiment, with our project we have made as much effort as possible to make sure that nobody thinks we would ever do such a thing.

We are rather tight fisted with our donations and make sure we only spend them when absolutely necessary - none of it goes out as regular stipends for the team and all funds for expenses get sent in response to the actual bills incurred, I don’t think any of us would dream of siphoning it into our pockets.

We were even debating if we should use the “standard” funds to foot the bill for a new hosted service thing but felt this was a bit of a grey area - the service would be provided for free but footed by the donors of which only a small percentage would likely use it… We realise just how much of a privilege it is to be in receipt of the funds so we treat them with utmost reverence.

Not that I’m trying to encourage you to donate money to projects rather than time, I very much do the same as you and donate time and effort rather than money, but there are some good guys out there.

I have to admit that I don’t. I have done a couple of one-off donations before but I generally hope that my karma is balanced by some of the effort I put into helping out with a couple of projects.

That said, I’ve been utterly floored as to how generous the community has been with donating to one project I help with in particular. We added a donation platform with OpenCollective early on in the project but kind of hid the link away a little in the navbar, I thought we might get a tiny bit thrown at us every so often. When Distrotube did a video on us, one of the comments he made is that we should make the Donate button much more obvious, we did and now we have a whole bunch of super generous sponsors backing the project and making it possible. We keep the spending as open as we possibly can - it mostly goes into our backend hosting costs and website stuff and really does help it all stay alive.

But… that is exactly what I’ve been saying since the start… If used correctly there is no need to instantly reject a project just because it uses Discord, or any other chat, as one of its options.

I feel you haven’t been reading what I’ve been saying if you are claiming a “single chat log”. The whole point of what I’m saying is that there are various forms of communication that can be used in a project and the one I’m part of literally couldn’t function with an async-only forum type setup. Chat is for temporary, transient communication. Forums (and by extension Lemmy/Reddit) are for longer form async discussions with defined topics. Both are valid as has been the case all the way back into the days of having both a mailing list and IRC channel for a project.

You know IRC has been used alongside mailing list for open source software communities and projects for literally decades right?

The same could be said of Matrix though, I don’t think you can see a Matrix chat without an account either. Discord does have a forum layout… ish. It is pretty bad though and not something we use as a forum. It is used but really only as a way to separate topics in what would be a busy single chat area - more akin to something like Zulip. Even IRC channels tend to need you to connect with a nickname but unlike the others you can’t see chat history without a bouncer set up and at that point you have basically made an account in all but name.

That brings back memories… trying to play co-op games back in the day wasn’t so easy as it is now…

I think that is more of a comment on incorrect use of such a platform and it would be the same whether it was IRC or Matrix. I’ve put a more detailed response to another comment if you were interested - https://lemmy.ml/comment/11850496

We use Discord rather extensively but we don’t have this problem. I don’t think the issue is Discord itself (or for that matter any chat, be it IRC or Matrix) but the way it is used. I think it unfair to just blacklist a project just because it uses it.

We use Discord for team chat and conversations, the instant nature of a chat app suits this purpose far more than an async platform like a forum for us. This is either commonly known or transient info, not something we are interested in preserving. Long form conversations (like the status of our OS packaging) that require input over a long period goes into a forum topic.

We also use it for support for short form questions and help - anything more than a quick answer or “active” help then we recommend filling in an issue form or using the forum.

If a question comes up more than a few times then we make sure that it is documented - either in an FAQ or in the main documentation as it is clear that information isn’t readily available or easy to find.

I’m not necessarily defending their use of Discord as I don’t know exactly what they are doing but it does seem they don’t have any alternative community areas. In contrast, yes we have a Discord but we also have a Lemmy community, a Subreddit (I’m honestly against keeping that one going but we would rather not shut out users from support), Mastodon and forum.

So no, it doesn’t increase volunteer load in all cases, it is a valuable tool for us. Not that I’m wedded to Discord in particular (I’d honestly prefer to migrate it all to Matrix) but the idea of a chat platform for projects is not a bad thing by itself, it is how the project uses it.

Discord is still a legitimate form of contact and support for a lot of people. Out of interest, where do you see that line? I can only see Discord mentioned alongside e-mail and some other (even less tasteful than Discord) contact methods for support.

To all those downvoting I’m not saying that Holesail is using Discord correctly, just saying that just having Discord (or any other chat platform) as an option shouldn’t be an instant red flag and it depends on how the project actually utilises it.