That doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

I agree. And I think that non-vacuum isn’t that our health system is whack, but that we just went through a traumatizing time as a society that left people very fearful and looking for answers. It’s a convenient and easy one that the conmen are more than happy to advantage of for their personal gain.

I guess I see our positions as very different. . .you attribute it to people trying to avoid our healthcare system, I see it as people just looking for something to blame for how crappy shit was during the pandemic; our healthcare system has been shit for a long time, but the rise to prominence of this anti-vaccine movement happened during the pandemic. I don’t think the timing is coincidental.

But I appreciate the cordial response.

People have opposed vaccines since they were first introduced. I find your explanation just trying to force it into the current discussion around health insurance.

I would argue that it’s primarily because some people can’t fathom that the world is a chaotic place and shit just happens without sinister forces making it happen. Its exactly why the devil is such a popular theme in Christianity, because they need some evil force acting behind the scenes to justify the fact that absolutely terrible things happen while also believing in some supremely powerful and benevolent God.

With the pandemic, and people losing their shit because they were in lock down, the idea that this evil force was making it happen and fucking with them really took hold…and that made the “freedom” from it, a vaccine, a very good target for people pushing their conspiracy theories that this was a good way to push some sinister agenda…and with the amount of fear at the time, people were susceptible. Once you’ve opened the door for vaccines being a vehicle for sinister agenda, that just opens the door for questioning previous vaccines as well.

100%

If there are enough prisoners that they would create a large enough voting bloc that they could get someone elected, then that means there is something fucked up with the legal system. If there aren’t that many, then what’s the big deal allowing them to vote?

Sure, absolutely. Which is part of the reason I think it’s bad to give the justice department this kind of power.

Because let’s be honest, this is 100% a case of community self defense.

That’s not how self defense laws work, for good reason. Self defense requires imminent threats, and we’ve established this for centuries as the way it should be.

Absolutely the people should be able to elect a felon. This is how the law should absolutely work. Imagine how bad it would be if they could just remove political rivals by getting the justice department to catch them in some bs felony, or even frame them for something. The real travesty is that we allow the state to remove the right to vote for a felony conviction.

Now I see your original point in a new light. I just viewed it as a natural progression that the mouse would take over as the primary input because of it’s useful and intuitiveness. So when you say you “hated” this, I interpreted as a hate for mice in general and the wishing for pre-mice days. Rather than just a move back towards the keyboard being the primary interface.

We’ve prioritized “intuitive” over “efficient.”

I would argue, overall, it’s more efficient to aim for the former than the latter, especially if we are talking about the wide range of people who need to use a computer.

But I’m curious as to the “actions per minute” type of efficiency that people are talking about here. I’m an engineer, who has moved into computer programming. I would say the bottleneck for me is never that I have to move my hand to my mouse, but it’s always about thinking and planning. I feel like this “it’s so much more efficient” is viewing us as almost machines that are just trying to output actions, rather than think through and solve problems.

The net result was a populace that didn’t need support as much, because they were used to reading the docs. If a component died, the docs would tell you how to diagnose and fix it.

I think this is more of a problem that it went from an extremely niche thing, to something that almost everyone is required to use, rather than a move away from keyboard only. Or, maybe, the rise of the mouse opened the computer to everyone being able to use it, which is why it has become so ubiquitous.

I call it my Warcraft-Quake era, we still used keyboard only for Doom 1/2 back in the early days

This is my main reason for not pining for the days before the mouse: it made gaming 100000x better. I remember when we first started playing quake, a lot of the guys swore by the keyboard only, until I regularly destroyed them with the mouse. . .and they all switched over.

I’ve also done a lot of graphic design, photo-editing, schematic design, etc. . . and can’t imagine having to do that solely with the keyboard (but again, I’m often like “why isn’t there a keyboard shortcut for this?”).

Also, when it comes to productivity, I guess it depends on what you are doing because usually my big hurdle is not how quickly I can do actions (that is usually more important in video games, tbh), the big hurdle is sitting down and thinking about how to do it correctly.

Sure, it’s not 100% better in all situations. But when you’re unfamiliar with something, almost universally, it’s far more intuitive.

And this doesn’t even take into account things like gaming. I also can’t imagine trying to do visual design things solely with the computer. Like any type of drawing or schematic design.

Being pretty adept at using the keyboard, I’m often frustrated when I find out that the only way to do something is by mouse when there appears that there should be an easy way to do it by keyboard. But, man, I can’t imagine longing for the days before the mouse.

Is this for real?

Your link is Clinton saying she won’t say before the primary is over whether she would support Sanders. It’s not even her saying she wouldn’t do it, let alone all liberals saying it.

The amount of disinformation spread here is amazing.

OP says everyone just wants to have a good life, you come in an intentionally antagonize people. It’s pretty clear who missed the point.

You really can’t think of anything more obviously a case of treason than what you believe trump has done?

The guy is loyal only to himself, no doubt. But, I don’t even see how it would fit this definition at all, and I can easily come up with many things more obviously a violation. Also keep in mind that Russia is not an enemy; we are not at war with them. They are an adversary.

I mean, isn’t that the definition of a traitor?

The definition of treason is very clear and very narrowly defined in the COTUS, and this does not meet the definition.

I’m not as doomer as everyone else for the short term. It’s the long term I’m worried about. He might get 2 more scotus members, and he’s going to do everything in his power to undercut any attempt to tackle climate change. And that includes his scotus picks who will almost certainly declare any needed attention to address climate change as unconstitutional.

Maybe not a war, that’s debatable. But trump openly denies climate change and will absolutely go in the wrong direction. So unless you’re an idiot who denies the reality of climate change, i can’t see an argument as to how those chances did not go up.

This is a terrible apology. You make it all about then instead of your actions and then don’t even say you won’t do it, but only that you’ll try to do it…and then immediately dropping the f bomb throwing out the window any chance that you’re “trying” means anything.

Funny. I have a buddy who bought his around the same time as I did. I remember talking about it. I saw him a month or so ago and he was still using his. He’s got a ton of money (well paid, no kids) and in tech so I figured he would have at least upgraded, but he said there was no need.

Although I just looked it up and they have bad reliability ratings, which is surprising to me based on how good mine has been with decent usage.

I read this and was like “10 bucks says it’s just alphabetical” and, lo and behold, it’s just alphabetical. How is that not the obvious answer?

They haven’t even started counting yet.

You need to take a fucking chill pill, my man.