PatFusty

English is not my first language either and I type the way I speak. So I might say things wrong but language was never my strong suit. I only commented because I have a friend from mainland China who only speaks around this time.

I hope we can both agree that using evaluations made by China is not always the best. I could have replaced CO2 with # of immigrants or %breast feeding and we would have the same issues. However, the use of CO2 as a metric for a developing country is specially odd given how difficult it is to track in places like the US for EU. Hence, I say don’t trust it.

Can we agree there or is this all still baseless conjecture and erroneous conclusions?

There we go okay I got it

Haha funny fast plane go fast

If it’s not illegal then why did yuzu get shut down? Maybe you can represent yuzu against Nintendo, it’d be a slam dunk.

TLDR

How dare they want their copyrighted material not stolen

CO2 is NOT the only metric being captured by global agencies, it’s just what was said in the comment above and is usually the target to showcase how responsible the use is basically. I am not saying that the metric in itself is bad but it is easy to mislead. China is not trustworthy when it comes to capturing data like this because their companies are basically required to make greater China look good. This is a separate beast.

If you look into how a body like the EPA calculates their emissions they reference the greenhouse protocol. In an ideal world, all use and all waste goes through a method like this protocol and individuals calculate their emissions. Governing bodies and academics alike would be using software to track each ounce of output based on raw materials. If you purchased or created a good, you should be able to track and show end of life for each individual component. This is just not the case. People don’t know what is in the stuff they buy. There is a flurry of life cycle analyses cradle to gate or gate to gate or cradle to grave being produced currently to bridge this gap but it currently is not the standard for identifying output.

How does a company like Walmart track all of the emissions produced (by their farmers, their logistics, the raw material manufacturing, etc.) if it’s difficult? The answer is they give ballpark numbers based on how much was purchased. Companies now have decided to use a number that was calculated based on various spends and convert that to output.

How does a country like the US measure then? In the US there are regulatory bodies that check if what we say is true but it’s a complete joke. There waaaaaayyy too much data for these bodies to go through so they usually report whatever the company reports.

Circling back to China and why I say not to trust the CO2 calculations is that these companies are not trustworthy. I’ll be honest I don’t know if there are similar regulatory bodies in China for emissions but I doubt it. It’s what allows companies to do illegal dumping into rivers and let’s many claim net zero. I’m assuming based on the time you responded to me that you are in China so maybe you can elucidate me on how I get this wrong.

Oh okay, I feel like responding now so I reread.

So the evidence they provided was what I said is carefully curated. I work in sustainability and I see how people mess with numbers. I also know info from China is famous for fudging numbers as well. I don’t think CO2 is a good metric as it is difficult to track. The way companies track CO2 now is usually by spend so they convert $$$ to CO2 output through a calculator. It’s really not efficient.

You asked me what is an alternative and I said I don’t know. I really don’t, unless we have a way of tracking what comes in and out of a business and how it is used.

Too bad why? You had a counterargument or something?

Too lazy

Yep you got me, I make shit up on the fly.

Remind me then

I don’t even know what you are responding toqnd don’t care to look

Big dog 2 months… If you knew how companies figure out their pollution metrics you would be very sad.

As for a better metric, I don’t know. Everything is tied to cost so it’s really dumb

Big dog why are you going back in time 2 months to respond to this

My x1c still has nobs below for manual leveling?

Can you imagine caring about children’s well development? Gross

There’s nowhere in the US where 6500 is rent and bills unless you consider the 3000 a month on onlyfans a bill.

Even in the most expensive places like San Francisco or New York you are not going to struggle finding a place for 3k a month. You are more likely to be rejected for not making 30% wage than finding rent less that 3k.

This is actual snake oil

Sending plastic to the landfill that doesn’t decompose anaerobically is essentially the same as sending regular plastic. Also, using shitty material that has a shorter shelf life also means it allows for planned obsolescence for items you wouldn’t have thought was possible. For instance that can allow companies to put best use by dates on a refrigerator, home insulation, soles on shoes etc. For single use items it would make it so stock would be thrown out if not consumed more frequently. We would end up sending even more plastic to the landfills.

I remember I spoke with the professor at UCSD working on this eTPU alternative to regular PUR this article is referencing a few years back. He was frothing at the mouth of selling this as a product as he was eager to talk with big companies to sell the research, it turned me off 100%. I asked if it decomposes just as well anaerobically and he said it’s not intended to be used outside of composting scenarios. It also has little shelf life and more hygroscopic which reduces use performance over time. So there we have it. Another green wash situation. Your composter is NOT going to accept this when they see it x10000000