I keep bringing up jealousy because it’s so evident how pathetic your mindset is when it comes to other people.

You’re a failure. Not everyone who isn’t a failure is wealthy. Some of us are just normal people living normal lives. A normal middle class life is exactly what I’m fortunate enough to be living.

Still rambling on with jealousy eh? I feel good about myself surrounded by my loving family and friends. I don’t feel good about myself because I can afford a house and others can’t.

You are jealousy is preventing you from accepting reality. It’s also quite clearly what’s holding you back.

You’re so confused. You alternate between saying I’m trying to impress people and then I’m trying to deny it. I’m doing neither. I’m simply stating reality. A reality that you seem too dense to grasp and yes, you’re absolutely impoverished and when I say that I’m not talking about your bank account, I’m talking about your mental abilities.

I’m not telling on anything by being honest with you. I can’t afford a new car right now. In 2 or 3 years. I’ll have saved up enough to be able to afford one, but right now it’s simply not in my budget. I also can’t afford the kitchen renovation that I have planned. Can’t afford a lot of things that you seem to think the wealthy people can.

I can’t afford them because I’m a pretty firmly middle class household that can afford some of the nice things in life but not without working for them. Like the wealthy are able to. At no point am I downplaying my privilege. I’ve said a number of times even in these posts how fortunate that I am. That you think admitting to going on a vacation is gloating just reinforces your jealousy. We budget to be able to take a vacation. I read the other week that over 30% of Americans take multiple vacations per year. By you’re jealous framework, you’re claiming that they’re all wealthy, which is obviously an absurd thing to say or position to take. I’d chalk much of my fortune up to the fact that I’m not a moron with my money running around charging my life on a credit card, like the vast majority of people that you see around you today. I’m not benefiting from the exploitation of others any more than the manager at a McDonald’s is. I get paid for the work that I put out. I don’t get paid for other people’s work and I don’t get paid from real estate holdings or investments or any of the other wealth creating vehicles that the wealthy in our society utilize, if I had the ability to I certainly would but seeing as a middle class those avenues to earn are not available to me.

You’re accusing me of lacking critical thinking when you apparently don’t have the ability to think critically enough to budget your own life or to think critically enough to put yourself in a position where your paycheck will allow you to live the middle-class lifestyle that I happen to be able to live right now.

That you think my understanding my place in the social hierarchy is an attempt to make me look bad. Really demonstrates your lack of ability to think critically your poor emotional intelligence and your lack of overall social context… Which probably at least in part explains why you’re jealous of someone who’s living a middle-class lifestyle and probably why you’ll live in poverty for the rest of your sad life. Crabs in a bucket.

If I were wealthy I sincerely doubt I’d be driving my broken down Ford but you tell yourself whatever you gotta to alleviate your feelings of failure.

Nah man, redefining things doesn’t work at all. I’m not wealthy. I’m pretty firmly middle class based on just about every definition of middle class that’s available to any sociologist on this planet. People ignorantly seem to think that middle class is tied to your salary or household income which is not the case.

I’ve got no problem with people seeing me living the life that I live. I grew up in a twice broken bankrupted household and I’m pretty damn proud of what my partner and I have been able to achieve. I live a pretty comfortable middle-class life and I try to help uplift the people around me so they can do the same.

I look around me and I see people struggling to achieve the middle class lifestyle that I’m grateful that I have but the fact that parts of society are falling behind doesn’t by default make me wealthy. If I were wealthy I wouldn’t have a mortgage or a host of other things that are currently saddling me financially. The people who can be categorized as wealthy are those who don’t need to work for a living and whose capital sustains them.

You might not agree with me but that doesn’t change. The facts are reality surrounding our individual financial situations.

I’m happy to admit that I live the life that you described. For the most part. Big house and a desirable neighborhood. Couple of six-figure jobs. Couple of nice cars, at least one warm vacation every year and another one to visit family. Kids educations will be fully funded by the time they’re 18. Registered savings accounts are nearly maxed out and will be by the end of this year. The house I grew up in was a single parent home that went through bankruptcy when I was a young teenager, so I’m quite familiar with the other end of the spectrum and I’m putting plans in place to avoid ever ending up there… While still not thinking twice about picking up $1,000 dinner, tap while out with friends for a celebration. Balance as possible if you’re willing to sacrifice some of the shiny things that people seem to want these days.

I’m grateful for our fortunate position. When I look around I see people living lives quite a bit more extravagant than ours and I don’t quite understand it, but I’m more focused on building my family’s future. So I keep the blinders on and keep doing what seems to be working for us. I’d suggest more people do the same and that would involve spending less time on sites like this.

That’s not wealthy though. That’s maybe well to do or upper middle class.

Wealthy is your children not having a mortgage and also having a trust fund.

I know a guy who’s worth over 10 and probably closer to $50 million. He still lives in the same house that he did when he graduated university. He drives a 10-year-old car and his son who is one of my best friends drives the car that he had before that as a handme down.

Some people flaunt it. Some people build it quietly.

This gentleman that I know has bought both of his son’s houses cash so they have no mortgages. He owns a million dollar cottage on a beautiful Lake and another property on the panhandle in Florida. You would think that he’s on social security though if you just saw him bumbling about his yard.

My firm threw a staff BBQ at one of the satellite sites yesterday. My director was texting me about going…45 mins away…for a hot dog… standing in a field on a rainy day…

Sorry boss, deadlines to meet gotta prioritize my work here.

Yet, there’s managers who very likely pay attention to who shows up and who doesn’t and judge their work based on it.

Back to the initiation of the culture… this isn’t hard to understand. Is there a 3 million year old culture remaining today? No.

There’s a 3000 year old one though and they’re in their homelands again.

What a stupid take. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, it’s intractable from the Jewish people. Don’t be so ignorant. Next week Jews will celebrate the return to their homeland from exile in Egypt, they’ve been doing so for thousands of years.

Your understanding of indigeneity doesn’t come close to the established academic or real world understanding of it. If the Greeks had remained in Crimea, maintained the language and culture like the Jews have done then yes they’d absolutely be considered indigenous. There are a dozen examples of these sorts of people’s across the MENA region, they’re all indigenous, not the Arab invaders who forcibly colonised the land.

So you’re saying that violence should win out. That’s an interesting take. Those people were forced to convert under threat of death, just like happened across the MENA region. That’s an indisputable fact with reams of history in that country backing it up. Both the Arabs and Jews kept great notes.

Arab Jews don’t exist. That’s literally not a thing. Ask any Sephardic or Mizrahi Jew and you’ll get an earful. There are Jews who refused to convert, they’re not Arabs. The Arabization of the region doesn’t give them claim to the history of the region which is clearly being attacked right now, your comments make that abundantly clear.

If you believe that violence is an acceptable form of wielding power as you claim above, then you would be hypocritical to take issue with the situation in Gaza today. Violence isn’t the answer IMO, no one wins that way. Seems like people want to ignore that’s how Islam spread though, but the people who live in the sole non Arab state in the region won’t ignore it and are clearly fed up with it. If violence is the chosen path, it’s very evident the Israelis are up for the task.

Lastly, over 70% of Israelis are either Arab or from the MENA region. Your lies about them being European Jews is just yet another bigoted stereotype. You seem to be hitting all the classics here.

It’s interesting to watch people like you attempt to spread misinformation like this. Everything you’ve lied about is very clearly captured in the historical record.

Next you’re gonna claim DNA testing is illegal aren’t you? There’s only so many lies in the handbook LMFAO.

The Iranian bots have been working overtime lately. That would be logical however. Disappointing it is to see technology manipulated in this way.

I feel like there’s enough iPhones in Jerusalem that this would have been flagged much earlier. Had it not been a recent introduction…

And before before the Arab conquest Jerusalem was in the hands of the Jews. It also shouldn’t be lost that Jews have lived there even under the brutal Arab regimes for over 3,000 years…

The entire point of decolonization is giving the land back to the people who are indigenous to it. Arabs are not indigenous to Judea. They come from the Arabian Peninsula.

Whoever snuck that in, should be looking for work today. Regardless of your views on politics, injecting them into your work product is problematic at best.

There’s been like 9 variations of gender in the Hebrew biblical books for thousands of years…

This isn’t new, but the bigotry towards it is. Kinda like how being Homo was fine in Roman times but not in Confederate times. Hate is a social construct.

The hilarity of thinking people here are tech savvy because they have an app is pretty cute to me. This place is slightly less accessible than Reddit but it’s hardly difficult to navigate around.

You’ve almost got it right. The Palestinian identity was developed (by the KGB if we’re being real here), as an anti-semitic response to the establishment of the state of Israel.

This is pretty well documented too, I’m assuming you’re familiar with it. You’re just leaving it out of the story because it doesn’t fit your narrative…

Your claims of ethnic cleansing are also not backed up by the history as plenty of Arabs remained in Israel upon its formation. Of course they were under marital law, the newly forming nation was figuring out who it’s enemies were and guess what? They were pretty much all the Arabs surrounding them. Those Arabs now serve in the IDF, sit in the Knesset and serve in the judiciary among being pretty well integrated into Israeli society. You’re completely neglecting the fact that more Jews were displaced from the surrounding Arab countries. Then Arabs were displaced within the newly formed state of Israel. Many of those were violently removed from their homes in a similar fashion to what happened within Israel. Although what happened in Iraq etc was on a much grander scale as well as being much more violent. But that’s again a different story. The UN has a pretty detailed report on that up on their website if you wanted to go take a look. This isn’t to say that Arabs weren’t displaced within the new borders of Israel. Many left voluntarily and some took up arms. There was a war happening. Unfortunately people die in wars. Going back to the twenties. The Arabs were attacking Jews then then the Hebron massacre being one of the more prominent. But there’s dozens and dozens of examples in history too.

All of this is pretty easily summarized with the fact that the Arabs turned down multiple offers to develop their own state alongside the state of Israel going back to the 1930s. They refuse to this day to acknowledge the existence of the state of Israel. This has always been about hate not land. That hate has led to far too many dead Arabs but hopefully one day soon they will love their children more than they hate the Jews. I remain hopeful, but I also remain confident that Israel is not going anywhere and will not run out of ammunition if the Arabs continue to want to martyr their children.

You’re claiming one of the founders of the PLOs words are inaccurate and ahistorical? C’mon man, that’s just silly.

Herzl used the common language of the time, that’s not debated and obviously expected. The fact of the matter is that Jews were already present, had a majority of population in numerous centers within the Land and the European refugees were a minority when the UN partitioned the land. It’s also not disputed that Israel granted citizenship to the Arabs who didn’t flee during the war in '48, and there’s millions of them living in Israel currently as a result. Is Israel expected to grant citizenship to the people who took up arms against them and refused to acknowledge their existence? You can’t seriously believe that. That’s the definition of fucking around and finding out, those people left under the promise of Israel’s destruction, it’s not Israel’s fault for not letting the Arab League uphold their promises. The Arabs were offered to partition the land, they really should have taken the offer, it was initially more generous than what was offered to the Jews. It’s been the same crying ever since.