Such a good line lol

You can’t stop the signal

Gotta do it eventually dude or this will be our grave.

It’s strange to me that you can have the foresight to see the existential threat that is climate change, but not the risk of having all of our eggs in one basket.

You’ve also moved the goalposts. Your original argument was that they pollute so much and use so many finite resources that they’re bad. Is this no longer your argument?

You’re never going to convince me that space exploration is something we should stop.

You’re missing the forest for the trees and way over estimating how much pollution rocket launches put out.

We have to leave the planet, which means we need to practice so to speak, and those rockets are the only way we are going to get out there right now. The pollution produced by them is well worth it.

lol yeah I guess

Rocket launches are not why climate change is occurring.

I am against Starlink just fyi

I’m not saying SpaceX isn’t without valid critiques, but if you don’t see the value of reusable rockets and can’t even give them credit for spearheading that, I’m not sure what else to say. Make no mistake I think Elon Musk is a bigoted piece of shit, but I can also acknowledge that SpaceX has done important work

I’m sure there are plenty of people who started at SpaceX before we all truly knew the monster musk is. Also, the work they are doing is incredibly important. It’s hard to give that up. It shouldn’t be this hard to empathize with people

Similar to why many men wear boxer briefs it sounds like

Windows OS is not the product.

You could say that about any product or service. “They don’t charge for a steering wheel on your car it’s bundled in.” But that’s not a useful or meaningful distinction.

The issue here is windows famously charged until very recently (and still sort of does) which distinguishes it from those that don’t charge.

That’s not really a good description either. Advertisements are pretty clear: the deliberate promotion of a product or service to an audience. Saying “I like this app” in natural conversation doesn’t mean I don’t stand to benefit.

Microsoft is the only company that charges for an operating system so frankly I don’t understand why they feel entitled to that income anyway

Let’s kind of refocus here because there are 3 things at play.

1: What do you think we need downvotes for, 2: do you think that’s how they’re being used, and 3: are there better tools to accomplish #1?

After that it’s an assessment of other potential cons.

I didn’t do anything of the sort, I made an inference. I am happy to admit it was incorrect. But if you want me to only take your words exactly as written then this conversation is about to get way more annoying.

Self moderation clearly isn’t working if you ask me. Otherwise we wouldn’t have mods in the first place.

I also didn’t say it was the exclusive usage but it’s certainly the dominant one.

that’s nota agree/disagree, that’s filtering for offensive and unwanted content, which you seem convinced only the downvote option can solve and that it does so effectively

That’s not really the question either. The question is “why do we have a downvote button/what do we hope it accomplishes?”

If your goal is to have an agree/disagree binary to sort all content, then power to you because that is how it is used. But a lot of people, not just myself, don’t want that.

That’s already a problem. We see that stuff all the time. The only way to stop that behavior is comment/post removals and bans. When have downvotes ever deterred troublemakers?