It’s really sad when no one is saying “just talk” 😂

Yeah, but what does matter is that I’m not talking specifically about the platforms, but the people running it and contributing. You’ve completely missed the point in a very human way, demonstrating one of the reasons why it’s people at the core of the problem.

That’s for perfecting illustrating what I’m describing. You think “this is it, this is the thing that’s gonna allow humanity to become enlightened!”. You’re hung up on the product like a bunch of other people, and not looking at the consumer. Federation won’t do shit to change human nature. That’s it’s own thing. Federation is just another social media tool in an already pretty large toolbox. You gotta teach humanity to work together, not just throw another platform at them and think that’s the fix.

I never said federation was in itself bad. People keep getting hung up on that and nitpicking. Just saying that it’s not the solution to humanities core problems that arise from our own instincts and behaviours. And that it won’t spur any revolution. It might be a tool used by the revolution, but it, in itself, will never be the revolution. People will be the revolution.

All the people debating me on Mbins history and various software are not getting the point: PEOPLE couldn’t agree on how to run the fediverse, splintering it into numerous groups(for better or worse). These same people won’t agree on the causes or solutions necessary for a massive cultural revolution as well.

To put it another way: Xkcd comic on standards

The fediverse wasn’t the solution to humanities problems. It was just attempt #284747737 or whatever. It was a bunch of high ideals about “if we give the power back to the people, this time it will be different!” while completely forgetting that reddit mods were just average people too until they became powermods and that whole system got corrupted.

The fediverse will never bring about the revolution. The only thing that can and will is the will of the people.

It’s named Mbin after Melroy. Dude filled Lemmy and Kbin with bitching posts for months. First it was the instance he worked on not listening to him so he started his own. Then it was people not joining his instance and only the “popular” ones. Then he got Kbin to agreee to let him work on the project and shit on Lemmy saying Kbin was the real future. But when that didn’t go his way either, he made Mbin while shitting on Kbin. I am well aware of the massive ego behind Mbins creation and it is a PERFECT example of “fuck you, I’ll make my own”.

ETA: oh yeah, and the time when he was supposedly a Lemmy developer too… Who left on bad terms.

Seriously, check the guys resume. He’s been supposedly attached to almost every federation project and has left all of them on bad terms when things didn’t go his way. Each and every time was “it’s not going the direction I want, so I’m starting a new version”. The exact point about splintering communities from my OG comment.

This is EXACTLY what will happen. Federation will just mean “fuck you, I’ll go make my own instance since you don’t 100% agree with me” creating splintered echo chambers that accomplish nothing because they fundamentally lack the ability to work with others. Federation will absolutely not lead the rebellion.

Just look how many Lemmy varients there already are. In the first few months we already had Kbin, Mastadon, Lemmy(and all of it’s instance variations) and then Kbin even split and also became Mbin as well(which was literally “I don’t like how they’re running Kbin and they won’t do what I want, so I’m starting my own” by user Melroy). Remember how the first drama was “which instances should we block on our instance?” on pretty much every single location? How everyone quickly set out to make a name for themselves by which communities they filtered out? How we didn’t even make it a month before instances were defederating each other?

Time and time again humans blame the tools they use instead of reflecting and seeing that the tool wasn’t the cause, humanity is. This is how humanity acts. We’re tribal by nature. This is what we do. You’re not gonna just fix that with some new software. It’ll take cultural change on a grand scale.

Name a single election topic you know about that’s not US. I’ll wait.

Any meme community. Easy example. Are you even trying?

If you remind me later - I have to get ready for work soon - I’ll help you if you want. Its fairly easy. Easier than a printer, so you’re already qualified lol

“Too much off topic discussion or discussion in one topic that stifles other conversations”

Better?

Be the change you want to see then. You can make that community. I mean this in a supportive way. Go for it!

Interesting how the save now feature was broken until right up until the US election. Makes it easier to edit news articles on the fly without leaving a trail. Could be a motive for who was behind it - but I’m just speculating.

Exactly. Eventually what we see now as cutting edge will become “bare minimum” or even “obsolete” hardware one day. Eventually the camera on your cell phone will by default be taking such high resolution pictures that anything less that a TB of onboard storage will seem quaint.

If you want to search and index it, you don’t want to do that on tapes. It’s doable, but difficult. And what benefits tapes gain in reliability/long term storage, a RAID system would negate. Cheaper large SSDs make these kinds of systems more economical to the average person.

The issue is, every time we make a great leap in storage medium, we tend to use that new storage for BIGGER files. Higher quality media and all that. Back in the day, the average movie file was measured in the MB. Now it’s GB. Think about an old floppy with 1.4 MB of data and how many text files you stored on it. You couldn’t ever imagine needing more space. Then came pictures and music files. Video files. Then higher resolution picture and video files. Suddenly even your text documents aren’t just raw .txt files, but Word documents and interactive PDFs.

As storage improves, what we expect to be able to carry around with us or have in our home computer changes. I’m currently running a home server with 18TB of storage. An amount that I would have never dreamed of possessing 20 years ago, and yet here I am debating when I grab that 24TB drive because I can already see me running out of space in a few months.

This is all to say that I really don’t think there will ever be a maximum amount a user could need. Give them that maximum and in a week they’ll have figured out a way to use it to capacity. I think video games and cartridge/disk size limitations and then the transition to digital games and balloning game size shows my point.

Except the original study wasn’t properly vetted for decades and it really set us back because we blindly followed the wrong path. Science institutions failed this time around. In this case, the money was more of a tragic loss.

I see your logic and had the same thought, but then wouldn’t a “No stopping at anytime”/“No parking” sign accomplish the same thing? “No Loitering” sign as well. If the point is for the cop to be able to point to a sign, those already exist and are much more broad and easy to use(or misuse, depending on your perspective). Like others said, an absolute minimum speed limit seems destined to harm pedestrians. Plus, you can see it’s before a stoplight. So not even logical.

I’m betting this is a fake sign.

I tried to buy the model from an artist recently for personal use(friend wanted some Mickey ears of a specific style). Person told me no and quoted me $130 with a 3 week wait time for a physical product that was something I could print in about an hour myself. For a Disney product they were already infringing on themselves.

Went elsewhere and found someone selling the model for $7. Figured that was fair for the effort to transform it into a model file.

Turned out I was wrong - only took me 20 minutes to print.

Some of these artists are ridiculous…

We’re in Eternal September now. Have been for a few decades.

That’s why I think the final iteration of the fediverse will be a mostly defederated bunch of echochamber bubbles. People don’t actually want diverse opinions. They want a diverse group of people to share their opinion so that they can feel theirs is the dominant, right one. Give it 5 years and the fediverse will be just as much walled off and divided as the rest of the internet is now.

People like to complain about the evil’s of humanity and yet always seem to act like it’s forced upon us by some outside force. Like the 1% are a different species and not just glowing examples of our worst traits cranked up to max. Like someone else is making humanity act this way. But nah, it’s just us and our nature. And until we understand and address that properly, none of our problems are going anywhere.