Loom In Essence

Seek therapy

Well the next kid will think twice about bumping the bot.

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Okay, you have no compassion, just a therapy fetish.

And, um, yeah… let’s keep working on curing cancer, too.

Building communities coordinating on meaningful goals. Actual life as opposed to merely dealing with the trauma of not having a life, goals community.

No amount of therapy can ever take away those needs, or satisfy them.

I don’t want to discouraged anyone from getting therapy, but it’s definitely not a solution. Access to therapy might help people deal with the ongoing problem (and that’s a big “might”) but it will never, ever solve this big issue.

We’re doing more by having this conversation than therapy can do. As long as we keep having them and trying to develop ideas and behaviors to bring those missing things into our lives.

If these mental problems arise from the living conditions of the masses, no amount of therapy can prevent them. Many that seem incurable might just be failing to escape psyche-wrecking situations.

Even if there were enough therapists, and even if they could actually help, you’re still talking about fixing mental problems instead of preventing them.

Sure, but that patriarchy has been around for a long time and this wave of despair is new. You could probably solve some problems that way, but it’s not the solution to the big problem we’re facing here.

Rising inequality and alienation are the problems.

If it’s one big cause that applies to millions, then no, individual therapy cannot fix that massive problem.

Sure… But if there is a massive incidence of these “wounds” then therapy and self help is too little too late.

Why is nobody ITT talking about the causes of this wave of misery? We are putting all the responsibility on individual men to show their vulnerability with no interest in solving the initial problems!

Can you offer some examples of where “being vulnerable” led a man out of depression?

I do agree that there is a culture of masculine shame around mental health, and it can be unhealthy. But I’ve also seen that those who share their feelings don’t get the promotion, tend to make coworkers uncomfortable, drive women away. Life is still a competition and vulnerability is genuinely risky.

I’ve seen bullies strategically share false vulnerability to garner sympathy. Genuine vulnerability often looks gross from a man, and is unlikely to lead to positive outcomes.

Most importantly, this new wave of mental health problems is not caused by a new wave of “not being vulnerable.” It’s a societal issue and must be confronted there, not shunted onto each individual man.

Therapy is never a cure. If you have a problem then therapy can help you confront it and deal with it, but if we have a massive society-wide mental health crisis it will not be solved by each man individually seeking therapy.

We need meaning in our lives, something worth dedicating ourselves to, and the means to pursue it. Mercenary capitalism won’t provide that.

In short, I don’t see an answer. I think it will get worse.

Addendum:

Most importantly, this new wave of mental health problems is not caused by a new wave of “not being vulnerable.” It’s a societal issue and must be confronted there, not shunted onto each individual man.

Nazis only lost their empire. They’re basically terrorists themselves now, though not as well funded apparently.

Terrorism doesn’t have an empire in the same way. They don’t usually occupy an entire nation with an economy and complex professional society. The empire was crushed.

Terrorism is all underground. Do we know how it’s funded? What are the economics of terrorism? Infrastructure? They’re more slippery.

Also worked for me on Connect

I had no idea, but apparently the co-founder of Mozilla is also the creator of Brave and inventor of Javascript, and was removed from Mozilla after giving $1,000 to support anti-gay-marriage efforts. That’s quite a career.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mozilla-ceo-resignation-idUSBREA321Y320140403

I blocked the whole instance. I’ll admit that I do want to see nude females (who are obviously adults) but I was seeing lots of other stuff that I don’t find sexy, and blocking specific communities was like playing whack-a-mole.

They’re still bad people, but this kind of blame has to run uphill. The devs only have the option of quitting, not necessarily of not doing what they’re told.

That being said, I bet there are some Very Good Boys who enthusiastically and proactively suggest some evil shit to the execs.

Yeah thanks for the warning. I was about to put a computer chip in my brain with no concerns about privacy.