If you needed yet another reason to quit smoking, here it is.

  • ApollosArrow@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Is it just being replaced by other equally bad habits? I just found out that disposable vape pens are a thing. Those have plastics and electronics inside. I have no idea what the numbers there are.

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      1 day ago

      Although vaping has become really big, there’s a lot more people quitting smoking than there are picking up vaping.

      And vaping is not equally bad by a long shot. Cigarettes are far worse for you. Also, vaping isn’t nearly as annoying for the people around the user. I say all this as a cigarette smoker myself.

      Those disposable vapes are disgustingly wasteful. Apparently you can take them apart and make them reusable or repurpose the battery, but very few people are going to mess with that.

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        there’s a lot more people quitting smoking than there are picking up vaping

        Sadly, in Australia, this isn’t the case. We had very, very low smoking rates, and vaping has opened up the floodgates to new nicotine addicts, many, many of which never even tried cigarettes.

        I’m pretty annoyed about it, to be honest.

        Another generation who will reap the rewards of cancer, which will be a massive cost to society. Financially and emotionally.

        I really hope we can stem the tide.

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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          24 hours ago

          I can’t claim to know the future, or more than doctors have described, but it really does seem that vaping is much better for your health compared to cigarettes.

          You can feel it. Once you get used to vaping it doesn’t hurt at all. Meanwhile, after smoking for essentially my entire adult life, if I smoke too many I’ll feel it hard the next day.

          • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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            20 hours ago

            I’m not claiming they’re the same as cigarettes. Just that if they hadn’t come along, a huge number of people (in Australia) may never have picked up a nicotine addiction at all.

            And that’s a shame :(

            • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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              20 hours ago

              I’m just saying nicotine isn’t very likely to give someone cancer and strain healthcare than the fucking 100+ chemicals, tar, and ash that are in what I smoke.

        • AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          24 hours ago

          Nicotine itself is not cancerogen! The stuff that gives you the big C are the combustion byproducts, and vaping does not combust anything. The main ingredients of the used liquid are vegetable glycerin, which is harmless, and propylengycole, which is also quite harmless. The only thing where there isn’t enough information yet are the used aromas, which are the same as the stuff that gets added to our food; there is not much data regarding inhalation of those.

          Sure, it would be far better if they didn’t vape (especially if they didn’t smoke before - i am using it instead of tobacco as harm reduction), but at least you can relax regarding the size of the health impact.