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Link to the daily stats: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
By the way, welcome to everyone who joined thanks to Boost!
We need more normal users on lemmy tbh. So far, my impression of lemmy is that it’s full of tech enthusiast. I’m one too, so I largely enjoyed it, but eventually it gets annoying and tiring listening to tech bros and FOSS diehards whining about something not being open source or something. I just want more normal content from normal people. I hope boost and sync gets more former Reddit users to sign up.
Porn and Linux everywhere.
I wish there was porn everywhere
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I feel like you’re implying that there are categories of content that don’t belong to one of those two groups and tbh I can’t think of any
Just have to be patient while reddit continues to ruin themselves. They just got rid of ad personalization opt-out, what’s next?
I joined reddit using boost. So it’s natural to join lemmy using boost. Kinda feels like home ig.
I’ve been following the stats closely. There were actually several times that the active users ticked down and then ticked up the next day, the most recent being September 19/20. But I suspect that may be a statistical artifact, whereas the increase on September 28 is legit. It looks like about 1000 new accounts were created/became active on that day.
User attrition has slowed significantly in September compared to August. We should stabilize somewhere in 30,000 range for MAUs before the end of the year, which is not too shabby. We are unlikely to see another big wave of growth until the code is significantly more mature, but the current userbase is fairly well established and self sufficient.
I can’t wait until we get that next wave so we can have more sports fans and humanities types, but you guys are alright for now 😅
Did you notice that the Average Lemmy Comments by Day looks really weird? Some of the sudden jumps could be attributed to real life events, but I’m more inclined to think there’s something buggy going on with the way three numbers are logged. Besides, there’s also a sudden dip!
30,000 range for MAUs before the end of the year, … current userbase is fairly well established and self sufficient.
I see it differently. It looks like the majority of communities struggle with not enough content/discussions, many de-facto are blogs of mods/creators where others are passive subscribers.
It looks like the majority of communities struggle with not enough content/discussions
This is true, but also subjective. How do you define enough? Enough to doomscroll or enough to check for 10 minutes daily? All we really need to be self sufficient is enough content to keep people coming back regularly, we don’t need to replicate reddit.
many de-facto are blogs of mods/creators where others are passive subscribers.
This seems like an exaggeration. Most communities that have quality content also have quality discussion, in my experience.
This is true, but also subjective. How do you define enough? Enough to doomscroll or enough to check for 10 minutes daily? All we really need to be self sufficient is enough content to keep people coming back regularly, we don’t need to replicate reddit.
Right, this is subjective. For me the main criteria is: if I want to get an answer to a question, especially a non trivial one which is not releated to lemmy/fediverse - I should better go to reddit. And I think lemmy should better replicate reddit with this
This seems like an exaggeration. Most communities that have quality content also have quality discussion, in my experience.
Probably, can you give me example of such communities which are not about fedeverse, technology, foss or memes?
Fwiw, I’ve been consistently getting answers and solutions to my questions and issues on lemmy.
Good for you. I have a very mixed experience.
For me the main criteria is: if I want to get an answer to a question, especially a non trivial one which is not releated to lemmy/fediverse - I should better go to reddit.
You’re not wrong, but I don’t see why Lemmy would want to replicate reddit in that respect. You don’t need to spend any time on reddit or even make an account to take advantage of that functionality. You just Google your question and add reddit to the end and voila.
Probably, can you give me example of such communities which are not about fedeverse, technology, foss or memes?
I also skipped the gaming and political communities because there is an absolute boatload of that content on Lemmy, as I’m sure you’re aware. These are some communities that I am subscribed to that jumped out as being fairly active.
Communities
Nice list
Were any of them new to you? Just wondering
Not really, but still a nice list!
You don’t need to spend any time on reddit or even make an account to take advantage of that functionality. You just Google your question and add reddit to the end and voila.
I was talking about asking my specific question, not googling for information.
Thanks for the list - agree - these communities are are rather alive, what is promising.
It looks like about 1000 new accounts were created/became active on that day.
I remember @antik@lemmy.world mentioning similar numbers, so that’s probably this.
We should stabilize somewhere in 30,000 range for MAUs before the end of the year
That’s what I foresee as well.
so we can have more sports fans and humanities types
Discoverability of those communities is probably the first issue to fix. I tried to address it a while back, maybe I should do another one of those posts: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2410183
Damn, 40k monthly active users on lemmy? That’s much less than I expected. And the number’s dropping.
Well, at least for me, there’s no going back to reddit.
Monthly active users are an important metric for companies trying to sell advertising. It’s less important for a community based application where profits are irrelevant. What is more important is how valuable the content is to you, and if it’s not, you can put in an effort to provide content you, and others, find valuable.
Although less important in other places, knowing that there probably about 400 people sharing most of the content (1% of 40k), is still important.
I think a negative trend is really important… if we are shrinking we are shrinking. Content will decline if the trend isn’t reversed.
I wouldnt be surprised if much of the extremism on lemmy puts a lot of users off, tbh. Ive been seeing more and more remarks about it.
Extremism? I’ve found it to be much less extreme than says /r/europe or /r/conservative
What kind of extremism are you talking about?
Yeah. I guess it will vary from instance to instance, but from my personal experience, viewing “All” on Lmemy isn’t noticeably more political than /r/all. There’s maybe less diversity in the stories, and more memes, but still. It’s not bad.
Reddit has absolutely been way worse at times, by the way. When T_D was allowed to run roughshod over the front page, and spez bent over backwards to not ban them despite clearly being a nuisance and breaking the rules.
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The activity seems to reflect those numbers.
Happy you’re enjoying it!
I had already stopped using Reddit, just waiting for boost to drop. The only content I find lacking is adult content. Memes, gaming, and news all have enough users here that even though it’s less than reddit I’m not missing out. Maybe it will get me to spend a little less time on my phone. But between this and Mastodon I’m happy to pioneer a new kind of social media.
Do you mean porn? There’s a whole instance; lemmyNSFW.
Unfortunately, I’m gay. I’ll see if they have anything I like.
I’m bi, and there’s a decent amount of content if you are into specific things. Definitely more F than M though, atm.
I’m doing my part 😉
Damn, no kidding! Cheers!
This thread, while pointing out that there’s some negative trends in active users that can be concerning, actually gave me some hope that there’s many more people here with interests besides Linux and communism. Honestly I find this promising for the long term existence of Lemmy.
Hey now, we’ve also got anime, flurries, soil scientists and mechanical keyboards.
Are you a soil scientist furry who likes anime?
I would also like Magic the Gathering and Warhammer. Lol but I still haven’t gotten the navigation part down yet
Try !mtg@mtgzone.com for Magic stuff.
There’s 4 million posts on lemmy a day? Where?? I go thru maybe 500 on top day and by the end of it I’m in things with like 3 upvotes and 0 comments
There are instances that just mirror content from other sites which leads to a ton of posts with zero discussion. They have been defederated by the larger instances because it spammed the all-feed.
I think a big part of the problem is the sign up page, which is being worked on. Also, lemmy.world goes offline just about every day and is one of the larger instances so lots of new users go there and then have a bad experience. And it needs to be made easier for users to find out about all the third party clients available to browse Lemmy because the default client leaves much to be desired.
Most people won’t go out of their way to switch instances when lemmy.world goes offline enough to make them quit the fediverse, or try navigating around the base client and become upset at all the unnecessary button bloat and missing basic features like blocking an instance.
lemmy.world goes offline just about every day
Is it still the case now? I was under the impression the site was much more stable since a few weeks: https://lemmy-world.statuspage.io/
I haven’t noticed any outages recently. I’m pretty sure the situation has gotten better at this point.
Maybe. I switched to lemm.ee about a month ago
1 month ago means that account just fell out of the active monthly users list, and I’m sure you’re not the only one, so yeah those issues are likely part of the drop shown here
the 30th also gained slightly over the 29th, from 38,867 up to 38,940
I’ve been on Lemmy for a while but just disliked the previous app options. Now with boost its becoming a daily thing to check in! Love boost
Glad to hear!
Nice, Boost was definitely mentioned in a lot of the applications I approved.
Hey, good to see you here!
I was wondering, would it be possible to have !sexmemes@lemmyf.uk as NSFW for the whole community again?
I get that a few posts might need to be tagged as such from time to time, but most of the content there is mostly SFW, and quite funny.
You too!
It is tagged NSFW now. I messed around with in not being a few times but have left it tagged for a while now. It definitely gets more activity when not tagged. Which way were you meaning in your post? You confused me with the last part.
Alright, let me clarify. There are currently two ways to tag content as NSFW
- the whole community
- per posts
It seems that as now the whole community is tagged, while actually most of the content there is SFW, and it could maybe be possible to untag the community, and only tag specific tag posts that are NSFW?
I’ve had various people reach out to me about it including @freamon@feddit.nl who runs the trending bot and asked me to keep it tagged NSFW. I’ll untag it again and see how it goes lol.
Ah, I see. It’s borderline, actually. Like the last one with Bambi and the shower can definitely be checked at work, but with the text, maybe not ha ha
I personally had 4 active accounts in August, until I settled on one instance I like. Very likely many others did the same, so these numbers are far from perfect.
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I think that’s total. As servers go offline, the total number of posts can go down. I guess “average” refers to the total posts on the network, checked every hour or whatever, then averaged across the day.
Finding an app I liked really helped improve the experience, since it made things feel less clunky. Most of my use is through mobile now.
With all the political extremism and propaganda on here I’d be surprised if numbers stabilize any time soon.
You’ll never fully be able to escape crazies in a network built out of human beings. That said:
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It’s important to remember a lot of people in the Lemmy-verse are there because they were banned from Reddit for being too obnoxious.
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The next update will allow users to block entire instances which should help cut down on some of that
Also, moderation here is way more lenient than other platforms.
I believe part of what you may be seeing was a bug that was preventing moderation actions from federating properly. Fixed in 0.18.5
Yes the KBin spam issue right? Also because it’s decentralized a bad actor can start their own instance and moderate however they want.
Kbin moderation actions being incompatible with Lemmy’s is a different issue as far as I’m aware.
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I’ve been just blocking every political sub
I’ve been blocking most as well, but I don’t like that solution because social media is the de facto modern town square. We need to have these conversations somehow.
Same. I get enough political slop everywhere else.