Whenever I post or comment (collectively, “post”), it has my upvote automatically without me doing anything, so the post always starts at +1/-0.
Now I’ve seen fresh posts with +0/-0, so not even the user itself is upvoting.
I don’t really care that much about votes, but I’m curious. Is this the user removing their own upvote, a client feature, some server feature, or some other reason?
Thank you in advance.
Edit: typos
Some instances don’t use votes, and thus users of that instance make posts that don’t even have their 1 automatic upvote.
In my opinion I shouldn’t even have the ability to upvote my own comments. I don’t really see the point behind doing so.
You don’t like what you post? Then why did you post it? The auto upvote for yourself is because it is assumed you like what you post. That right there should tell everyone that they are not intended to be more complicated than “like” or “dislike.”
Might have to clarify that my instance (or rather Mbin in general) doesn’t do auto upvotes.
Though it doesn’t really change my stance. You can swap it around to removing the auto upvote, I don’t really see the point behind that being possible either.
If you like your content, keep it up. If you don’t like it, either edit it until you do or delete it. Upvotes and downvotes are for judging the content of others, not your own. So be it adding one when there’s zero, or removing the upvote automatically added by your instance, I don’t see the point in either being possible.
I mean, you thought it was a good comment to post. You’re a user on the fediverse, therefore you deserve 1 updoot.
But there’s zero information gained from a self upvote. If I didn’t like my comment, I’d either delete it or edit it until I do.
Of course I like my comment if I keep it up, so a self upvote adds nothing. The only advantage I see is to make this place look more like Reddit, which isn’t really something I care about.
My mbin account doesn’t auto-upvote my posts or comments, and neither did my kbin account.
At the time I started using kbin, it was considered a character flaw to upvote your own content. Votes were also public.
skill issue
:<
Might be a cross post from somewhere that doesn’t have votes like Mastodon.
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couldmay apply to posts, but I don’t think it does for comments?Yes it does. It is possible to comment on Lemmy posts from Mastodon if the posts were for some reason federated to a Mastodon server.
Ah, didn’t know that was possible. I have been in the fediverse for a few years but I’m still a newbie on the technicals.
Thanks!
I have seen it on comments too.
I’m on Mbin and there is no auto upvote, so every comment/post starts at zero. I could be wrong but I think it actually removes the self-upvote from posts/comments if they have it.
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I get paid for each downvote (by Reddit). So I’m unusually fast in hitting the Big Red Button.
Some of us sometimes, & others all-the-time, remove the auto-upvote, so that our posts/comments get dealt-with neutrally:
Bandwagon-jumpers tend to downvote comments/posts which have balance-is-downvote on them.
Others do the same for upvotes.
I often find I’m voting against the herd, simplly because what I’m upvoting is an actual-point, & is impacting our world, even though what-it-is that is being pointed-out isn’t “politically acceptable” to say.
Generally I upvote MUCH more than I downvote, but as Nick Yee discovered, in his Gamer Motivations research, some people are very social, but they’re very ANTI-social: they like destroying what others are valuing.
So, it comes down to the individual-person’s motivations, AND it comes down to their frame-of-reference, both: they are independent dimensions to consider.
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This mentality is insane to me. But it explains so much about right vs left.
Like are you a knight of the lemme round table or something. What path has one taken to get to the point that you remove your own upvote on your own post so that is dealt with fairly?
I can’t with you people. It is claustrophobic watching every MAGA individual aggressively take every advantage and turn even their biggest fuck ups into victories. Meanwhile in left leaning spaces people are making sure they take the opportunity to seize every defeat from the clutches of victory
Sometimes the victory needed is victorious-internal-integrity, & winning-the-social-majority isn’t as important to one.
“seize every defeat from the clutches of victory” … IF one is only measuring social-victory, then fine…
But if what I’m doing is … systematically demolishing the ideological-prejudice-enforced displacement-of-my-validity, within me, then integrity can mean MUCH more than ideological/political-approval.
Sometimes you have to save your own life, even letting the collective die, in THIS battle, for sake of becoming indestructible in future-battles, throughout the rest of the war.
The war is more important than the mere-battles!
This is what I think Stephen R. Covey didn’t understand in his interdependency principle.
I think too-much of our world is codependent, not interdependent, & that it takes REAL independence -of-validity before one can get into actual interdependent-collaboration-synergy.
There’s a metaphor given by Kelsang Gyatso, in 1 of his books, which gets it right:
There are 3 ways of helping people, & these phrasings are mine, not his:
- the self-conqueror, who can coerce an entire kingdom into working right, in spite of entrenched corruption/rot/whatever
- the shepherd, who can lead many, but who is only slightly above them, so the shepherd can be indirectly or directly defeated by their lack of self-conquering: they are less-helpless, but they aren’t anywhere near the self-conqueror level.
- the ferry-pilot, who helps a couple of people at a time, & then goes back to find a few more to help.
In my experience, only the self-conqueror is robust: all the lesser kinds of help are helpless when opponent-force gets great-enough, or acts through great-enough leverage/torque.
Therefore, I want, and am aiming-for, TOTAL breaking of all the PTSD, all the damage embedded in me by ideology’s & prejudice’s ( including medical-profession’s ) gaslighting & abuse, all the harm embedded in me by medical-culture’s narcissism in parenting & “parenting”, ALL of it.
I want THIS LIFE unbroken.
& if people say I should enslave/snuff my potential to short-term/consensus/social-momentary-victory, then fine: hate, contempt, & reject my presumed alternative, as nearly-all already do.
But all I have to do is win, & then the rules changed, permanently, completely, & then this-life is in the next-level-up, & cannot be crushed by the masses wielded by the ideologies/prejudices/etc.
Getting permabanned by many instances, by many communities, because I value integrity more than I value political-belonging, is normal.
But every time I ratchet this-life’s objectivity+integrity a bit harder in the right-direction, that puts a little more good-change in me.
& sooner or later that tipping-point’s going to get crossed, & the brokenness hobbling my unconscious-mind is itself going to fail/break.
Then the game is changed.
That potential is to me real.
To all others, it is mere-delusion/lies: it never was real, & it never can be real.
So, the world bets its way, & I bet my way.
Universe will decide which is, in its eyes, true.
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Good point on dealing neutrally. I don’t care enough to remove it, though, and I just assume one upvote is a self upvote anyway.
Regarding downvotes, whenever I don’t like something, I just leave it be. I have a huge up to down vote ratio too. I only downvoted a handful of times, when it was clearly malicious.
I try to remove the auto upvote when I remember it cause it feels weird
This should be the motto for leftist every where. It so on brand
Lol true
Or keep auto-upvote on because you agree with yourself. If you get proven wrong you can downvote your own post!
If I’m trolling I tend to downvote my own comment, kinda like a /s
That’s /savage
I’ve seen that and my best guess has always been the initial/self upvote got “lost in the mail” during federation. AFAIK, the post creation and the initial upvote are separate activities that need to federate. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
If your instance is resolving a post manually that it doesn’t already know about (and it it’s not coming in from being subscribed) then it will not get the initial upvote, but I don’t think that’s what you’re referring to here.
Ah, that sounds plausible. I expected the post+upvote to be a single “packet”, but don’t know much about Lemmy internals
Because no one wants to see their fanfic, furry, anime, drawings.
I remove my upvotes. I never understood the auto-upvote feature in the first place.
Sometimes if a post or comment is fetched a bit after it’s been posted, the votes for it aren’t fetched as well.
Some users delete the down vote on their comments
