Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
We did it!
Wait that wasn’t the point.
People seem to only want their accounts on “general use” instances that are already pretty popular.
Which is… bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn’t so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.
One big thing that hasn’t changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.
That’s the downside to a niche instance.
That’s the core of every problem that’s occurred to every massive human social structure we’ve ever created in history.
We create systems, the systems become powerful, a small group of autocratic people naturally gravitate towards wanting to lead, the system is taken over by this small group, the system is corrupted, the system fails, the system ends … then we start over again.
It keeps happening over and over again and the common denominator is human greed (either in the need to gain money and wealth … or in the need to just want to gain power over everyone)
The only systems that last are the ones where everyone has an equal stake and a shared power structure. But it’s a balancing game that constantly has to be monitored … because once we stop being vigilant, some greedy idiots will naturally start taking over.
A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn’t really matter though I suppose.
Yeah no exact opposite for me: Big server means lots of user data making abuse of it more appealing and impactful. While an admin of a small instance having some fun digging through user internals would really do no harm (I don’t believe that’s a particularly typical hobby of small instance admins though xD ).
It’s not easy to see the list of all communities in an instance you don’t have an account. If I login and federate as user@example.com, I can see all the local communities inside example.com, but not others like lemmy.world. I don’t mean individual posts or an individual community, I mean list of all instance communities. I think this is one of high priority issues to be patched.
Some apps have that. As for the webui just go to the instances’ site?
Sure you can visit the target instance’s website, but then you have to manually copy and paste
!community@target.instance.I recommend browser plugins
I’ve found that sometimes old posts don’t propagate to newer servers. So if you want to participate in a old thread, you need another account.
The disadvantage of being on a small instance is that you could have an admin who is a fucking moron and ends up breaking stuff because they don’t know what they are doing.
Sauce: am admin. am fucking moron.
A good 40% of users are spread out on servers with less then 5% of the overall user base, but that is still a good 60% in the top 5 instances, considering how laggy lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are, I am surprised anyone stays on them.
It’s because instances are defederating from each other.
Aw man are we gonna have to move?
If they ever defederate from piracy communities, yeah, but I don’t think so, admin has a very anti defederate policy, so I see this scenario very hard to occur.
Oh, I don’t really care about piracy communities. I meant on the basis of it getting big.
goddammit
i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name)i’m starting to wonder if i’m cursed
Well then, please post where you’re gonna go next so we can avoid your trail.
well actually, i did recently make a backup acct. on lemmy.dbzer0.com…
Well that’s not great for me then
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Wtf go away
but what if going away makes it worse? .world’s downtime has only increased since i made my l.ee acct
Lol same, I joined FMHY first because I wanted in on a smaller instance. I now self host. Fool me once.
Now you’ll fold when you’re damn good and ready!
Exactly 😂
I get your point, but I think lemm.ee is still so much smaller than lemmy.world that it’s not much of a problem (at least not yet).
yeah you’re right, but i’m not (just) being funny when i said that - lemmy.world had only just started when i joined (10 days), still had the old (much nicer) icon and no banner, etc. it had 188 users / month, compared to .ml’s (at the time) 1.8k and lemm.ee’s (current, according to the above infographic) 3.7k…
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Tbf, depending on the region, that’s just how the electricity is made. The fbxl network runs off of electricity generation made up of 86% hydroelectric and biomass, with the balance made up of wind, solar, and natural gas.
As I have repeatedly repeatedly said, with a geography of canada, the entire country could be 100% renewables in a decade or two if there was a real focus on hydroelectric generation that is presently powering entire regions, and it would make people’s lives better in the process with plentiful inexpensive hydroelectric we would make electric heat the most competitive and thus would start offsetting burning fossil fuels for building heat which would have a massive impact on carbon emissions since buildings make up 25% of total emissions and most building heat is done with fossil fuels because electricity is too expensive and the costs are rising so people are migrating to fossil fuels even with the carbon tax…
But I digress…
Also the name is top notch! And it’s been pretty true to it too.
I like how the name can be read in 2 ways: shit just works and shh it just works!
I always read it as “shit it just works”
There was a rough week or two there but it’s been good lately. Happy being a part of it though.
Also two good reasons for me as well.
It’s strange that it doesn’t report a Canadian flag on the graphic in the post heading though. Looks like Netherlands?
I’m confused why it says it is in the Netherlands
I thought that was the French flag? I figured it got confused by the instance being bilingual.
It probably goes by ip only.
Getting closer to being ddos’d every six seconds.
Most of the times that i see this meme is always censured, they usually take out the part where the woman gets gropped. While i understeand why someone wouldnt whant to share something that contains sexuall harasment, i think its a little silly and very curious how its users self-censored themselvels with this meme, it its very unussual to find it like this in the wild.
In this version of the meme she’s actually from an alien culture where it’s considered rude not to kiss someone and squeeze their butt after accepting a medal. Their version of “bless you” after a sneeze.
I swear to god it’s in the show somewhere look it up.
Thermian argument best argument!
Considering how many startrek memes I see on lemmy, I’m surprised this was the original meme.
I don’t care what anyone says I will always read it as start rek
Woah, we grew fast!
lemm.ee has been consistently great for me, wonderful admin too.
Noooooooooooo. Don’t get too big or that’ll just paint a target on our server for the DDOS attacks!
stop growing I don’t want to move instances again 🫠
I see only two ways for this to stop happening:
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Instance admins make a collective pact to close registrations if their instance reaches x% of the total active base, and only open again when this number goes down to x/2%. I think x=10 would be a good start.
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Instead of donations, instances start charging for access after a certain number. This is what my instance is doing: the first 250 active users are free, after that payment is required.
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I contributed! After lemmy world banning the piracy community
what
I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.
The other .ml instances had a .ml free domain. Lemmy.ml paid for the domain so it’s in no danger of losing it.
Edit: further proof that it is a paid domain:
That’s great!
Oh goody. There’s a RickRussell_CA@lemm.ee and it’s not me. And it’s using one of my older profile pictures.
EDIT: 2023/8/29 update – I posted to the lemm.ee support community and the admins decided to disable the account. Well done!
That’s why we disabled the buy-sell-trade community on our niche instance. Nobody got scammed during the short time it was open, but if a username can be duplicated it makes scamming that much easier.
The only bad part about the fediverse, imho, it’s hard to be the only one with your username. What makes it bad is a malicious user, that you may have pissed off somehow, start using your username in a smear campaign to hurt your reputation.
The key is to not attempt to foster a reputation in anonymous social media
True. I try to stay anonymous. But that doesn’t work on all social medias. Take Facebook for example, they show all that info in your profile allowing haters to hate
Facebook is not anonymous social media. It’s spyware to the max
This is true, yet no one wants to listen to reality
Nice! The only issue is the extremely small size limit of images, but still a great instance
Che, that means drama incoming.
It is good for the threadiverse
Who owns lemm.ee and why do people choose it over other instances?
Can’t speak for others, but my decision to stick with lemm.ee stemmed from seeing how active the owner is, the minimal defederation and the bot & moderation policies meaning there are minimal bots, and I’ve yet to currently see much spam issues, which is nice.
Also helps that the owner Sunaurus is an active contributor to the Lemmy project as a whole, so we get patches and fixes relatively quickly.
why do people choose it over other instances?
Non-techy people want a big instance, but .world goes offline too often and .ml doesn’t allow new sign ups.
.ml doesn’t allow new sign ups.
It does, however one must know what is six minus two to get the approval.
That’s new, they were closed for a while
They got aome of the most traffic during the migration, so it pulled itself off the instance list page i think for regiatration so that people would join other instances leveling the load
They were during the thick of the Reddit migration
When I tested different instances lemm.ee was quite small compared to the big ones. The main pros are technically fast and stable. It also federates comprehensively.
Edit: also remembered that it hasn’t had any insane admin/rule situations that I’ve noticed
You sure about that? I just made this account a few days ago.
They closed sign ups during the early days of the migration up until recently. I just missed the moment they’re open again since I’m not interested in large instances.
It also doesn’t allow NSFW which other instances are littered with.
lemm.ee itself also doesn’t allow porn but that’s a “don’t post it with your lemm.ee account” type of rule. I think it also gets filtered out of the all feed, but you can definitely subscribe to stuff over on lemmynsfw.com. Long story short porn is a bugger to mod and the legal situation when hosting (and uploading an image with a lemm.ee account would imply that) is never trivial, either.
Somewhat relatedly, image upload limits are also rather strict, 100kb, to avoid that becoming a resource hog.
It actually censors curse words too. I’ve actually come to like it though
I think that’s going a bit too far, but also understandable.
What? I have never seen any censored words on lemm.ee
Oh, it only censors them when displayed to its own users
Significantly less posts and comments when compared to ML. So, a lurkers instance?
Nah, .ml is as old as lemmy itself, while .ee is a really young instance.
A lot of main communities (especially regarding technology, news and politics) are located in .world and .ml, so users from all instances will participate there.
It’s also much newer than lemmy.ml though.
