I left a couple of months ago. Couldn’t be happier.
The writing is on the wall. The leader thinks the Genius-with-hair-transplants is a superstar, despite destroying a globally recognised brand. Inspired by this, Spez is trying to get Reddit ready for an IPO. This means, maximise profits by any means.
It’s worth pointing out that Ars Technica’s parent, Advance Publications, owns a stake in Reddit. And they have been giving no quarter to enshittifiers.
I love how everybody is so busy about mining your behavior for ad tracking data and then like 2/3 of the ads I actually see are utterly irrelevant gut doctor / toenail fungus / 17 Most Embarrassing Topless Celebrity Moments crap.
(I think the reality is that they’re mining that data to identify a small number of people susceptible to high-value scams - like getting addicted to an F2P mobile game and spending $1000s on it - and the rest of us just get generic infill)
Yea it feels like something has been rotten with the ads industry for a long while. I’ve read a few pieces here and there about how it could collapse and that it’s built almost entirely on dumb lies. But it’s still here.
I’m no economist, but my best guess is that it’s a little like war and the effort we put into it. Complete trashy waste almost all the time, except for when one person or country decides to put effort into it, because then you have to as well or run huge risks. We’d all be better off without ads, including brands/companies, but when one is doing it every company has to too.
built entirely on dumb lies
I see you have learned about “impressions”.
I don’t believe I know what you’re referring to.
Ads are meant to get brand recognition out there for most things. Then when you’re in a store you buy what you’ve heard of before. They wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t effective.
You’re putting too much faith in the talent and insight of marketing executives. Large companies throw tens of millions of dollars at their marketing department. They’ll spend the money on a diverse ad campaign that ticks boxes, not one that is actually effective. People don’t buy based on the commercial they saw last. People buy what’s shoved in their faces.
That’s great, but you’re still wrong.
Absolutely spot on reply.
Brand recognition and memory triggers is what big brand ads are about.
Cleanex, Hoover, Coke, most cologne/perfume ads, Old Spice…
Brand recognition and memory triggers is what big brand ads are about.
Cleanex, Hoover, Coke, most cologne/perfume ads, Old Spice…
Late reply, but-- the above makes much sense to me when it comes to inexperienced / first-time buyers of a product. And/or buyers who simply get in to a rut and keep buying that product without trying anything else out.
But for everyone else, I would think they sample enough tissues, sodas, perfumes, etc to gain an understanding of the ins & outs of a product, settling on choices which best represent their favorites / desired price point. For bigger-cost stuff like vacuum cleaners, I’m thinking people in this group also learn to use review resources to evaluate best choices rather than buy a Hoover just because some ads ran.
So what does this all mean? Aside from overlap between these two groups, that there’s enough revenue being produced by the former childlike group such that ad systems can afford to almost completely ignore the latter, more adult group…?
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And by definition it’s still nothing but systematic brain washing. It’s actually very 1984, and I can’t understand how some people are ok with being manipulated into buying shit 24/7 and think that global perpetual invasive advertising is this perfectly normal thing that humanity has always had around…
I think capping it 1984 is a bit extreme, but I do agree with the overall sentiment. We’ve gone wag overboard in trying to monetize evert aspect of modern life. It gets old.
With very, very few exceptions, any time I see an ad I make a mental note to never buy that product. As such, most products I am familiar with(presumably because I saw an ad) I will not buy. The exception is pretty much just Hershey’s chocolate bars, I can’t live without them.
You had me on board until… Hershey’s chocolate? That’s not even chocolate anymore, it’s like putrid brown wax!
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Where are you seeing ads? Do you not have uBlock Origin installed?
You see ads? Bruh…
^ me when I visit friends…
Your data isn’t just being sold to advertisers. There are all kinds of companies that are willing to pay big bucks to get near real-time insights into consumer behaviour, prices, manufacturing and anything else that can be tracked somehow.
Edit: And there’s a near 0% chance that you’re not part of a dataset that’s being sold to someone, somewhere…
Why don’t you use applications, plugins and/or DNS settings to never see any ad?
I love how everybody is so busy about mining your behavior for ad tracking data and then like 2/3 of the ads I actually see are utterly irrelevant gut doctor / toenail fungus / 17 Most Embarrassing Topless Celebrity Moments crap.
Have you had yourself checked out for toenail fungus bro? Might be a thing.
Finally made the jump and just deleted my account… Sad, but their own fault
You had to delete yours? All of mine were permabanned long ago.
I just tried to delete and I keep getting an error
I’ve wasted a lot of time. but not on reddit 🥀 These sites feel like the big 3 car co’s. future is hard. some looking to cash out
I got a message from Reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/u_cy_narrator/comments/16w4uzj/witness_the_carnage/
I still had my Reddit account just for posteroties sake. I don’t anymore now. I refuse to accept changes or rules that allow for them to steal all my data. I’ve not gotten to this point with Google or Microsoft yet, but they’re not far off the chopping block.
But there is a second option, the one I plan to do with this current Reddit account and my Facebook account.
Dont delete, dont say you will delete. Just stop using. When its out of sight, it becomes out of mind. Maby deactivate Facebook account at most but I think it will be okay if it just stays there
BTW, because I use third party apps all my wall posts got turned NSFW even though none of them are. I wonder if it is indeed the end of time.
I think 99% of my interactions with Reddit these days are pulling RSS feeds, most of which just get marked as read. I almost never load the actual site anymore.
Damn…i gotta do this…so many threads though… I did this a while back with youtube and it was very much worth it.
Thanks for the reminder. Reddit account deleted.
I remember Reddit. It’s a shame what happened there. 🤷♂️
I never thought I’d be talking about Reddit in the past tense like when I talk about Digg.
wait, it’s all enshittification?
always has been
Ars and Reddit are under the same parent company, conde nast or however that’s all structured. I also have noticed ars seems to write very frequently about Reddit, even if it is usually in a critical light.
I get mixed feelings about articles like this one.
They spell the correct relationship out clearly in the article:
Advance Publications, which owns Ars Technica parent Condé Nast, is the largest shareholder in Reddit.
They’ve been separate for more than a decade now
It’s at the bottom of the article:
Advance Publications, which owns Ars Technica parent Condé Nast, is the largest shareholder in Reddit.
No they got bought back a few years later. They’re majority owned by the same parent company as Ars. Tencent also has some pretty big investments in Reddit.
I’ve thought a lot about this, and I’d like to say: “Reddit can kiss my entire ass.”
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gentrification of reddit.
‘you will all be replaced by yuppies who dont know what privacy is’This is the best summary I could come up with:
Reddit spokesperson Sierra Gamelgaard declined to provide further clarification when reached by Ars Technica for comment.
Meanwhile, Reddit’s policy update aligns with its outspoken goals to become profitable and its plans to eventually go public.
Other privacy policy changes announced Wednesday include allowing users to choose to see “fewer” ads regarding alcohol, dating, gambling, pregnancy and parenting, and weight loss.
However, clickbait and shock value posts are a strong deviation from what people tend to treasure most about Reddit: real human advice, discussions, and insight.
A support page says Reddit’s Contributor Program will avoid “fraud, spam, bad actors, and illegal activities” by putting users through Persona’s Know Your Customer screening.
Advance Publications, which owns Ars Technica parent Condé Nast, is the largest shareholder in Reddit.
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Who is still on reddit?
Well, if I hadn’t already ditched it I would do so now.
