Netflix says people just kind of rolled over and accepted the password sharing crackdown::Netflix subscriptions are up almost 6 million this quarter, suggesting we’re all just too exhausted to fight this stuff

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      I had a feeling they would but I did leave myself. Only problem is the person I was sharing with made an account so it was a net 0 impact.

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        I get the feeling that the kind of person that is on Lemmy is the kind of person that ain’t gonna take no shit and drop it just to stick to the man. I myself dropped Netflix but seems to be a common theme here.

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          The kind of person on lemmy is probably already self hosting a plex server that has all the content they care about and sharing it with their inner circle

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            Honestly I mostly stopped using it a couple years ago. Only when I was bored and was surfing for something to watch. The main reason I had it was for my retired inlaws, so after I cancelled I ended up setting them up with their own account though at a lower rate. So I still consider it a loss for them.

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        I know the feeling. I hate Netflix with a passion but my SO uses it. I have a Plex server full of stuff and constantly adding and showed her how. I cancel Netflix every month though 😂 can usually make it a day or 2 passed when it was supposed to renew before she uses it again and resubscribes.

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    Not me. When me and hubby couldn’t watch different shows at the same time in the same house a room apart, I cancelled the account and never looked back. They’ll never get my money again.

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      Me either. I left when they rolled that rule out in South America last year to test it. Netflix forgot that we went to them because cable was extorting us. As long as the internet remains a thing, there will always be other options.

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      Yep I cancelled mine. Not worth it. The shows they have been coming out with aren’t even very good and they lost a lot of old favorites

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      I thought this was the exact reason why they bundle multiple streams with almost all subscriptions. To provide multiple people in a household the option to stream their own stuff. Did you have only one single stream?

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    It’s spin. The additional subscriptions came from markets where Netflix is cheap. Not North America.

    “While the company added subscribers, it said average revenue per member fell 3% from a year earlier. That was partly because many of the new sign-ups came in countries where Netflix charges lower prices.”

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/netflix-tops-wall-street-forecasts-with-password-limits-ad-option-2023-07-19/

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        Netflix just dumped one of those lower tiers you mentioned (though existing subscribers at that tier are currently grandfathered in). The same article I linked to points out that they also aren’t seeing the uptake for their ad supported tier they’d hoped for. And they’re already coaching that next quarters guidance will be down further. I expect more churn as Netflix quality continues to decline and competition and prices continue to increase.

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          I’m curious to see how streaming services are going to be affected by the strikes. Theoretically down the road they’ll reach a point for a while where they have very little new content to release and will be fighting each other for the rights to existing content.

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        Just curious, are we sure the numbers reported are “net gain” and not “number of new subscribers”? Distinction being “number of new subscribers” would be all the people that signed up, and “net gain” would be all the people that signed up & subtract those that canceled?

        Earnings reports are always full of word tricks to paint the prettiest picture so I’m just curious if we know the net number?

        For example, all those articles that came out a week after the change went into effect were bullshit bc they didn’t take into account people who canceled and still had days left til their end of month, instead they only captured the 3 days after the policy change and Netflix got all the media to report this awesome stat for them.

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    Voting with your wallet doesn’t work when there are so many other wallets out there that don’t care.

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        I am already a Plex user but I gave Jellyfin a try. Hoping to ditch Plex and fully self host it. But unfortunately I use Chromecast on all the TVs in my house and the Jellyfin Chromecast integration is terrible :(

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      Nearly 2000 movies, over 200 series, over 50 anime movies and about 300 animes in mine, sharing it with 30 other friends and family. Currently looking into automations for it. This is the way.

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        Sonarr and Radarr are your friends for automation (TV and Movies) there is another arr for music but I don’t use that one.

        My workflow is essentially:

        • Queue up what I want in *arr

        • It sends request to sabnzbd

        • Better qualities that I want are updated automatically, new episodes are downloaded automatically.

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          Add overseer in the mix and you’ve got it made. I have overseer watching my plex watch list, so when I add something, in a few minutes it’s available to watch. It helps having a 1gb pipe as well.

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            There’s a setting in Plex which looks for changes to its folders, and refreshes your library automatically. I have that on, and I see my *arr shows/movies in Plex within a minute or two of being added.

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              Overseer monitors the watch list (or you can directly request from the portal) and then goes to either sonarr or radarr and adds them. Useful if you have some users you share your library out to and you want to let them request stuff. There’s also an approval system so your storage doesn’t get filled up by crap.

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        Hey, where are you getting the movies from?

        Would be cool to have some sort of catalogue that can be used to pick the movie that you want to torrent, and then Plex can just stream that to the clients and cache it for others to see too.

        That way no automations are needed. Just watch stuff like in any streaming service.

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    Turns out lemmy users aren’t representative of the greater public.

    Of course the person using a shared password either left (saving Netflix money) or got their own subscription (giving Netflix money).

    Netflix doesn’t care that people who weren’t paying stopped using their service.

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      I started pirating again when they set a price for multiple screens a few years ago. Fuck these companies, don’t let them take an inch.

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      Yep, I started to pirate everything again. I’ve never been happier with the quality and convenience. Not just limited to Netflix and watching movies of the highest quality from private trackers.

      Funny when things come back full circle.

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    Why are people so dumb… They treat us bad? Let’s throw more money on them.

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      People are dumb, but moreso they are lazy and want to be entertained rather than self improve. You can teach yourself how to create your own Netflix in a day but most people would rather endlessly scroll content that makes them feel envious or angry because that seems easier than learning something new.

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        I really want to see your “nailed it” post for that learned-to-make-Netflix-in-a-day alternative.

        If you could learn to build a 194-billion-market-cap company, or even just build such a company… you probably wouldn’t be here.

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      At the end of the day, people are exhausted and the tv is their solace. Not a great way to live but I get it.

      • said as I sit here on Lemmy while my wife watches her tv
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    I’ve found sailing the high seas to be far more convenient than using Netflix nowadays. I can watch what I want to watch when I want, instead of finding out a movie I wanted to watch was removed recently

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      Same. I cancelled my Netflix a couple years ago and haven’t looked back. They don’t have a lot of content that I’m interested in watching anymore, and when they do it’s easy to find elsewhere. I host my own Plex server now which makes it even more of a seamless transition.

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    They haven’t had anything interesting to watch since Squid Game. This Black Mirror season had like one good episode.

    But sales are slumping
    And no one will say why
    Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!?

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      It’s a difficult balance. They want more subscribers but less view time, so they create lots of new series to reel in new people and cancel already established series as the only people they matter to once everyone has heard about them are the users.

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    Personally, the value proposition for Netflix is really lacking compared to Amazon Prime (which also comes with prime video and Amazon music) and Apple One family (which also comes with Apple Music, extra iCloud storage, Apple TV and Apple Arcade) which I have so it was pretty easy to cancel my Netflix subscription.

    If I could bundle Netflix with something else it might make it worth it but comparatively the content on Apple TV is so much better than anything Netflix have at the moment, in my opinion (really enjoying Silo atm but have loved Ted Lasso, Severance, The After Party amongst others).

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      Netflix is essentially the equivalent of the DVD bargain bin at Walmart… lots of stuff to choose from, but none of it is remotely watchable.

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      Except so much of prime video you still have to pay to watch, like specifically rent even though you’re already paying a subscription.

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        Yeah that’s fair enough. Tbh, I’ve only watched 1 series on Prime - Upload - but otherwise can’t really recall what else I’ve watching on there (it’s probably been a few months since I’ve even opened it). I buy heaps of stuff on Prime though so that’s my main use although I do like Music too as some of the podcasts I listen to are ad free on there (eg. Smartless, The Lowe Post).

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    I haven’t because Netflix hasn’t given me a good solid reason to return to them.

    I wouldn’t exactly say everyone is too tired to fight this stuff. Because, a bubble has yet to burst somewhere if it hasn’t already. Netflix just fails to see the bigger picture of this problem and once that bubble bursts, the bubble of financial strains on society, they’ll feel it tenfold.

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      Large thinking on your part here. However, the issue is people will purchase it no matter what. Your efforts to stamp Netflix out personally are great but they are overshadowed by a company that makes millions and doesn’t need your 13 to 14 dollars a month to stay subscribed.

      If we want to show companies we aren’t going to participate then we have to indefinitely convince the population not to participate. That isn’t going to happen. These companies know that they will make money and people will keep buying.

      This applies to almost any industry. Take something more environmental. I haven’t eaten fish in 3 years because of how bad the fishing industry is. Mind you I am hypocrite and eat chicken and beef and those industries are just as bad but I am trying to cut back on them as well. Problem is, my one little attempt to not aid in the fishing industries endeavors are swamped by the millions that don’t care, are oblivious by choice or, just would rather exist in a world where there are no problems.

      The truth is the big companies should hold a responsibility but our laws (at least in the U.S.) fine them small amounts of what they make double of. Their are no laws to truly stop massive corporations because the corporations are fined rather than the people running the company and that is by design because technically the fisherman can’t be held accountable in the companies wrong doings if the CEO was the one doing the wrong doings but the fisherman is aiding those wrong doings unknowingly so you punish the company not the people running it.

      Then it boils down to if you can’t change the company then it becomes the people’s responsibility and we have one but we blame the company and or ignore our responsibility.

      The truth is it’s everyone’s responsibility. The companies the people’s. The human equation just doesn’t care. People aren’t going to stop watching Netflix over money the same as they won’t stop giving fishing companies money to kill the ocean that gives Earth life. Because there is no immediate effect to their lives. It only matters to most when it’s too late.

      We could divulge into a thousand topics. This isn’t meant to discourage your efforts. Don’t pay Netflix save your money but getting on Lemmy and stating, “Netflix will fall.” Can only happen when people give a damn just like you or when the companies give a damn. Companies have one incentive, money. People have incentive to buy a product if it works and brings some form of usefulness to their lives. No matter how you look at it or how much an end user wants to bitch about money. The truth is Netflix works so we are going to spend money to use it.

      You could apply this to Google Search, Apple products, etc. There is no incentive to allow competition, care about your privacy, care about your well being, if the incentive or money takes precedence. Additionally, that means we have a problem but on the other hand. You know what works? Google Search, do you know what gives Google Search the edge? Your data and money. You know why iPhone is popular because it’s easier to buy an iPhone to talk to friends and the messaging just works. You know the problem with Apple products? No incentive to switch to better platforms like RCS over SMS. Apple doesn’t want to change the consumer should and we will keep buying their product.

      Point being people have to truly change to change a company.