Because of “big toilet paper”. They even tried to assassinate a spokesperson for japanes toilets.
Holy shit? Do you have a source for that because damn. It’s something I would expect though.
It’s was joke. That’s the plot of a south park episode.
Honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised if Procter and Gamble did that shit lol
I wish I could find it again but this was years ago now that I saw a news story about the rise of women getting UTI’s from bidet usage in Japan specifically.
Today you have the bidets you can install on your toilet, but traditionally they were a thing on its own, that required about as much space as a toilet and all the extra pipework associated with it.
In some European/ Mediterranean countries (I suspect France may have started the trend) this caught on well, and bidets were a must have in most houses that had toilets as part of their main architectural structure. Most people in South America had bidets this way, it’s rare to see a house without at least one bidet, and this comes from the culture inherited from colonial times .
Now, things are different in othe parts of the world. England seems to traditionally have the toilet separate from the house and for some reason the bidet trend never caught on. This is in turn reflected both in USA and Australia. I don’t know about bidet popularity across all of Europe, but this is definitely a cultural thing and I suspect distance and language may have kept UK without bidets until relatively recently. And as you know, old habits die hard, so… Yeah in Australia I use the shower.
in Italy, there is literally a law obligating houses to have a bidet. the separated from the toilet kind.
Just another reason to like Italy even more.
That would never fly in the US. They complain about water usage so much that they regulate shower heads so that they barely drip water, and toilets so that they don’t have enough water to flush solid waste. The bidet would just blow the regulators’ heads with all the water usage.
Which would be short sightedness on their part, since bidets actually save water in the long run by reducing TP usage
The bidet would just blow the regulators’ heads
Only if they sit on it backwards for the drying portion.
not surprised that Italy (who has a history of fascism and from what I heard currently has a fascist leader) has an authoritarian law requiring that people do things in their own homes (kinda like some HOAs in the US. Although, I have to admit, we must have lucked out with a HOA that’s not one of the shitty ones you always hear about)
fascism is when regulation
Yeah! Fucking fascists and their safety and building codes. Don’t even get me started on smoke detector and fire codes. Goddamn government always trying to keep slumlords down.
“Hey you need to build the house with these features in order for it to be approved”
“Wuh what??? This is literally fascism”
you are not obligated to use it.
a funny story, a couple from England transformed it into a vase and planted flowers in it.
brit here.
can confirm. i sit on the side of the bath and wash my arse with the shower. The only house i have seen in the UK with a bidet was essentially a mansion
Fellow Brit, I just shave my arse crack to prevent Klingons.
“today is a good day to die!” flush
“Glory! To you and your ass!”
Right now I live abroad and we have just the tub, so yeah same remedy. It’s cursed and annoying though, so I hate it so much
Just get the toilet seat bidet. It’s probably like 40£
Also in the UK, the aftermarket toilet attachments are not in line with building codes because of the possibility of contamination of the water supply, so it’s quite complicated if you don’t have room for a separate bidet.
England seems to traditionally have the toilet separate from the house and for some reason the bidet trend never caught on
Uh… wut?
The UK has lots of old housing stock, built before the concept of indoor plumbing, so there was nowhere to put a toilet in lots of properties when they started to become a thing, hence you’d put it seperate from the house in an outhouse style set-up. We also lost less of the country to warfare during the two wars so didn’t have to rebuild whole cities, so the conversion to move those toilets inside was still going on as we moved to the later half of the 20th century. My old man didn’t have an indoor toilet in his childhood home until he was a teenager, he was born in the late 50s.
You still go to pubs these days that are old enough that the loos are disconnected from the main building as they’ve been there for so many years.
I live in the UK and nothing you’ve said here is congruent with my experience. I don’t recall ever being in any building whatsoever that had no indoor toilet, including pubs.
there was
In the past. A long way in the past.
as we moved to the later half of the 20th century
The move to the later half of the 20th century was 70 years ago.
Near where my sister lives on the edge of Bristol there are several pubs with outdoor toilet blocks. It’s usually country pubs or ones old enough to be listed. You’re not going to find many in cities these days.
This must specifically be like, row homes, right? Where it’s too tightly packed to fit a new room.
It’s not like houses here in sweden are brand spanking new and yet they all have toilets nowadays even if some of them are ancient.My old man’s was semi-detached, but yeah density is part of the issue here too.
This what I’ve been told- I’ve never been to England, my understanding is that back in the day this was the way especially for suburban and farmland, and that that’s why many old Australian houses still have the toilet separate. Obviously this doesn’t apply to dense or modern areas.
Spain checking in here. Bidets are definitely popular in Spain. I suspect that’s how they made their way to south America.
The utopian city of Atlantis sunk due to bidet overuse.
They might have sunk the city, but their butts were sparkling clean
No one understands what a bidet really is.
In the old days, they were a separate free-standing device. Not a lot of people have space or money to add one of these types of bidets to their bathrooms
Now they make them as toilet seat attachments that don’t require extra space and really aren’t that expensive.
But people don’t know. Older people will be like, “Oh a bidet? No I don’t want another toilet like device in my bathroom”
So that gets rid of all those people.
Next you have the people that know about the new style bidets that’s just a fancy toilet seat.
Their biggest deterrent is probably cold water. Spraying cold water on their butt doesn’t appeal to most people.
You can get bidets that heat the water, but you have to have power behind your toilet, which not everyone has.
Then you have older people that just can’t work them or don’t feel like they can. Like my grandfather, I installed one with all the bells and whistles for him. Yet hitting a button and doing all that was too complicated. He was 90+ and could barely use a cell phone for basic functions. But he’d rather wipe his butt like he knew than mess with the “complicated” bidet.
Eventually everyone is going to own a bidet, it really is the way to go.
We just aren’t there yet.
For me it’s because I have had to suffer from UTI’s before and I don’t want to risk some stream of water blowing bacteria into my vagina and then I gotta pee every five seconds and wait for a damn doctor visit because for some fucking reason UTI meds aren’t over the counter where I live.
I can buy the UTI “pain reliever” over the counter but it just temporarily fixes the pain, and the UTI of course continues. Pretty fucking pointless.
I have a seat one that only does cold water and it hits different in the summer honestly. Sometimes you just need a splash of cold water in your asshole to keep going.
Comes in handy for spicy food night.
Having used both types, including a water warming seat installed one, I can’t say enough good things about the free standing ones. The toilet seat ones though seem like a waste of time, even if they warm the water.
I think the answer is just that most don’t know about them, having grown up in homes without them. They are quite nice though.
They may also be perceived as too expensive, if they only know of full toilet replacement kinds and not the seat replacements you can get for less than $100.
Cost me half that and I love it. It’s a life changer.
I got a $400 one, and it was the best $400 I’ve ever spent. It’s something I use every day, and damn does it improve my day just a little bit more.
I suspect it’s a case of “We always did it this way, so it’s the superior way”.
This. In my part of the world, Nordics. No one has it, except really old bathrooms that have a separate bowl with o detachable shower head. But I only saw that once in my life. I installed one a year ago and it’s a game changer.
It’s a matter of planning and availability. In my country people don’t renovate their houses often and even rarely build them from scratch. Having a bidet requires planning and leaving space for it. Japanese style toilet seats are easier to install in smaller toilets, but they require electricity and/or hot water.
a toilet that requires electricity is mind-boggling to me, an american
There’s a lot of misunderstanding in this thread. Normal bidets that you buy on Amazon just get fitted under the toilet seat and connected to the water line that drives the toilet. There is no electricity wiring or extra .doodads needed
Unless you want heated water. My bathroom water gets pretty damn cold in the winter, but honestly, you get used to it. I don’t have hot water to my bidet, but I survive
This right here. Winters can be really cold and I think with water that cold my anus could cut rebar.
Same here. Warm water might be even better, but I don’t want to know so that I can continue installing dirt cheap bidets that require no extra work or plumbing :)
Yeah, because they have many nice features, from warming the seat to drying and washing.
I neeeeeeed one of those!
Washlets don’t require hot water or electricity, though, they can pull right from the toilet water supply
I’ve had no issues with the cheap $20-40 USD bidets from Amazon, while I’m sure the fanciness of a heated bidet would change my life I don’t see the need.
When you say bidet you are referring to a toilet seat with water or separate wash head next to toilet. When I say bidet am referring to what french call bidet, a separate toilet-like utensil next to toilet. Those things require planning and space since they require drainage, water source, etc.
I think it’s more common now to call a bidet insert a bidet. So just an inser that you fasten between the seat and bowl with an arm for turning on and off the spray. That connects to a T adapter at the inlet on the toilet. Works really good and costs 20-80€/$
Big TP conspiracy :)
American here. Thanks to woot regularly selling them, I have a bidet on each toilet in the house. I have a battery operated travel bidet, because now I’m hooked.
It has certainly led to… “Interesting” responses from house guests. There’s always TP in stock, so it’s not required. Butt I’m never going back if I can help it.
There’s always TP in stock, so it’s not required.
That’s always weird to read. For me bidets are for after, not instead of.
After TP? Why? TP is for drying and a double check.
You would make a mess of the bidet otherwise.
Not true for any of the six bidets I have owned. the wand sits very far back in the spray is in the opposite direction of where the wand is and the wand itself retracts into a cover while spitting water to clean itself.
And I have never even had a fancy one with power or heated water. All these just run off the pressure in the pipe.
Is this like the bidet version of standing-wipers thinking normal people will get their hand in the water?
The fact that any time there’s a poll and about half of people respond as being standing wipers always blows my mind. It’s just so… wrong.
Huh? I can assure you won’t, unless you have extremely muddy poos?
Last time I was in Japan there was actually shit on the spray nozzle at the hotel.
Come to Asia my friend, Bidet showers, no paper.
both my grandmothers used to preclean dishes with the same instrument before putting them in the dishwasher. It was attached to the kitchen sink of course. When I first saw one in a toilet in SEA I thought ‘what? But grandma how?’. She told me that dishwasher salesmen recommended them, and I always wondered how they made the jump from Butt to Wedgewood.
You need to eat more fibre.
Whoa… Tell me more about this battery operated one. I just got back from vacation and I missed my bidet!
Yeah I’d also like a recommendation!
I bought a Toto HW300-W “Portable Travel Washlet” off Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008O1G4LQ) back in 2018 and it still runs like a champ. The text is all in Japanese, but easy enough to figure out (or Google Lens it if you really want to know).
* Edit: I should note that I paid about half of the current list price :-O
Thanks! Adding that to my wish list right now!
I have a travel one for camping. No battery though.
IDK because they rock. I love mine. I’m even cool with the water being cold.
I turn the heat off in summer when it’s 28c inside. Nothing like a cool blast of water to help lower your core temps a bit.
Fellas, is it gay to have a clean butthole
I’m just worried I’m going to turn my sack into a punching bag.
I know it’s extremely unlikely. But, I’m roerty sure hot baths have already killed the workers.
From experience, I can tell you that your bag is safe lol
They are designed so that the angle of the spray comes nowhere near there. You’d have to do some sort of gymnastics moves to be able to whack the piñata with it.
Even still, even the alt blast modes are very gentle. This isn’t exactly the sorts of pressure you’d be using for cleaning lichens off sidewalks, haha.
I don’t know where I was coming from pretending I wouldn’t want to experience. Thinking about. I kinda do.
In America? Because we are barbarians.
I kinda think that’s why we are all so pissed and ornery most of the time….because our tushes are dirty.
My nephews thinks it’s weird/gay.
They’re good boys, they’re also idiots though.
Tell them women don’t want to smell their dirty ass either.
In the US, mostly because of the associations with prostitutes made by American soldiers in Europe during WWII. They were frequently called “whore’s baths”. Personally, I love mine and hate having to use a toilet without one.
In Belgium toilets are in their own room, smaller than a super small storage room, with just the toilet, and they don’t have bidets; I call them ghettoilet
The worst part of having a bidet is going places where there isn’t one.
I paid for a 250$ bidet toilet seat and i don’t even use it. How is it supposed to work? My stool are soft sometimes, and even with the bidet pressure to the max, it doesn’t fully clean it. I’m left with dripping wet ass covered with shit. Then i need to use toilet paper that’s literally melting from all that water on my ass. As a result i use 3x more toilet paper and my hands gets dirty. Very unpleasant.
Am i using it wrong?
I believe you are, yes. I once stumbled upon this thread on Reddit , it kinda explains it well ! The
*o*o*oIs pretty accurate. I’ve been using my bidet for around 2 years now and never once have I been in your situation. Now, I feel sad and dirty when I’m far from my bidet.Now, I feel sad and dirty when I’m far from my bidet.
So much this. I’ve held my bowels when I had the opportunity to go just so I could shit at home with my bidet lol.
I haven’t yet committed to a towel so I still waste toilet paper (though less), but it’s also nice knowing if I ran out I could just let my ass air dry (speaking from experience).
Exactly, it’s not that I don’t have faith in the cleaning power of my bidet, but still I prefer to check it with a 2 sheet before drying out the rest with a hand towel !
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With the bidet, you don’t see what is going on and you have no way of telling if you did a good job without taking a paper and check it.
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You have to make sure you’re adjusting yourself so the stream kisses your * and definitely do the 00*0
It does sound like you’re using it wrong. I’ve been using a $70 bidet attachment for 8+ years and it was the best decision I’ve made for personal hygiene.
Use toilet
Use bidet, making sure to adjust your position so the stream hits your o and the area immediately around it. Whatever poo may touch while going.
Use toilet paper to dry.
If you’re spraying parts of your bum where poop doesn’t even reach then you need to adjust the spray. I’ve used so much less toilet paper this way.
Use toilet paper to dry.
the fuck is the point if you still have to use it to dry off.
It’s a single wipe on clean skin. Much less paper used. No abraison. No mess. If you got shit on your arm would you be satisfied just wiping if off with paper?
No but I can do the same thing with a shower head and use soap and then a towell.
sounds like maybe bidets are for people who either have roommates or family living with them.
You seem determined to take issue with the concept of a bidet. That’s OK no one is forcing you to use one. The toilet seat attachment ones are super cheap and convenient. You don’t have to get up and go anywhere. You just turn a knob when you’re done pooping and you get cleaner than you can with paper. Feels good to be clean.
Like back to the arm poop analogy, if you for some reason were getting shit on your arm every single day, sometimes multiple times, then having to go do the shower soap towell thing becomes a hassle. Maybe it makes sense to have a special hose next to where you keep getting shit on you to make clean up easier.
That’s OK no one is forcing you to use one
Yet a lot of the comments here are like “LOL HOW COME MORE PEOPLE DONT USE THESE R THEY DUMB MY ASSHOLE IS SO FRESH”
I’ll be honest. I never get poop on any part of my body ever. Maybe like once on my hand while I was sick cause I was so sick that I missed but that’s not a common occurrence and probably hasn’t happened since I was a teenager. I’m in my late 30’s now. So that time is FAR far behind me. lmao. I don’t have a perfect memory but I would definitely remember getting poop on my fucking arm.
But maybe if I had a child or something someday - and I had poop getting on my arm cause of the kid making it a hassle to change a diaper… well I’d probably use a baby wipe. Duh.
Do you dry your hands after washing them?
yeah on a towell.
You gotta get the ones with the blow dryers! My asshole is sparkling, and the toilet paper collects dust.
I actually don’t use them because of UTI risk.
You don’t need to use so much water, and move yourself around to make sure your aim is right. It’s not a jet wash for your poop chute, it just makes wiping more efficient.
Mine cost like $50 and is probably one of my favourite ever purchases.
god now it sounds like its for people who don’t know how to properly wipe…
You have to wipe first, then you use the bidet with your little hand to clean it. Hope you know that even if you wipe a lot, the poop bacteria stays there
Also, soft stool sticks more than hard stool
