cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/electricvehicles/p/2162853/usa-slate-s-new-electric-truck-will-cost-slightly-more-than-24950
Range is said to be 205 mi (330 km), higher than the original estimate. This price is for the basic truck. The SUV configuration is expected to be $5000 more.
Something about this vehicle not mentioned: Because of the easily replaced plastic panels, insurance should be a lot less expensive.
But of course, meth heads are going to start stealing panels now.
Not much of a turnaround on plastic, but worth a shot I guess.
If they sell enough trucks for meth heads to profit in the grey market by stealing the plastic panels, that’s a huge win
Enter the aftermarket replacement panel bolts with security heads. Now they can only mangle the panels while trying to remove them!
The original price of 24950 included the federal tax rebate. This is why they used cheaper batteries and other cost cutting to try to keep the price the same. The rebates are gone.
Jeff Bezos’s truck?
He’s an investor in Slate. He had no role in the concept or the design.
Yeah I don’t have a problem with giving credit to engineers if it’s a good thing like this. It’s when it directly gives evil people like that more wealth and power.
Jeff Bezos is a very evil man and I don’t want to touch or support anything that benefits him with a million foot pole.
Imagine if it were Musk or Trump or worse. I have a hard time accepting that, ethically.
I love trucks, and the electrification of everything, sustainable infrastructure and energy. But it has to serve the wellness and the future of the people, not a fucking evil billionaire who is going to turn around and choke us all to death as slaves while the takes over the world.
And as much as I really love stuff like this, engineering and sociologically, and would have idolized this as a teenager and bought it blindly could I have afforded it then, I’m an adult now and have a pretty strong sense of social responsibility to my fellow citizens and the future wellness of both people individually and society. And I just… It’s really hard to justify buying or advertising or supporting or even wanting stuff like this if the net outcome is just gonna be the same old, same old.
Like, I don’t want a Tesla anymore. Not only because their quality has dropped SIGNIFICANTLY, but also because the company refused to drop musk after all of his literally political interference and throwing up multiple sig heils or heil hitlers or whatever the fucking Nazi salute.
So when I ask “is this Jeff Bezos’s truck?” And the answer is “he’s an investor”, I really don’t think anybody should be promoting it or talking about it irresponsibly without considering the ethical concerns and track records of these far alt right billionaire backed corporations.
And unfortunately, I still see way too much of it.
I get that people are sick of horrible shit and life is short and these are nice things… But repeated exceptionalism and social irresponsibility are EXACTLY how we got here in the first place. I’m disgusted, disappointed, frustrated, angry, and sad.
I need good news. Not head-in-sand and keep-shitting-in-the-house-because-it-feels-good.
Can you recommend an electric truck for me that doesn’t have the stink of men who have raped the planet, children, or exploited the poor?
I wonder if Aging Wheels will be able to get a hold of one of these for review.
I sure hope so. Maybe he can do a collab with Technology Connections about it?
Alec is the best. Love his stuff. Valid ranting with well backed reason is such a niche area (especially non political) but I really enjoy finding it.
Oh god, another cross country roadtrip collab video please.
I love the old couple energy they have when they are together, lol.
They did a collab before. I gotta see this
They’ve done two road trip collabs before. Theres been a few other crossovers too, mostly on Aging Wheels. . Though Robert did appear in Alex’s video about the color Brown.
Can an Electrick Truck Tow Long Distance?
I am a avid fan and patreon of both of them, lol.
Meanwhile in germany that’s the cost of a compact car EV…
But those are usually 5-seaters while this looks like a two seater. And it doesn’t have a trunk, just this weird truck bed that does nothing to protect your stuff against the weather. I like the design philosophy of this truck, but I’d argue that you get much more value out of a compact car.
just this weird truck bed that does nothing to protect your stuff against the weather
That’s what’s called a pickup truck bed.
Sorry, my European brain cannot fathom how such a pickup truck bed could be useful in daily life.
We know.
Go to the garden store, buy 20 bags of mulch, sling them on the back, drive home. Or go to the drive-in theater and lay blankets in the back! Or put a kayak in the back and leave the tailgate down.
That’s my use case anyway.
and the point of the truck is that it’s highly modular, if you want more seats it’s made to add them in
Okay, I won’t pass judgment until I see the actual real-life price of the truck with the modification for an additional row of seats and can compare that to other car models.
It also has a trunk in the hood
Hello Nissan and Toyota. Where are your small EV and hybrid pick-up trucks?
The new Hilux does have both mhev and bev version.
Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux
Seems like it’s available everywhere except america
lol, they’re $66,000 in Canada.
Hilux are not small, look at a Ford Falcon AU Ute.
Seriously!
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Hard pass for me for various reasons but I hope this does well enough to make other auto companies want to compete.
Same. I want to want one. The interior colors are either melt-your-balls black or something else I didn’t like. But the older battery tech kills it for me.
Thats why I want to consider getting one. Hope the segment offers better options, but someone has to be the early adopter
This sounds nice for someone who needs a truck. But I have lots of kids. Why can’t I get an EV minivan for under $50k?
Maybe not a minivan but I’m pretty sure you can configure this with a lot more seats for not too much more and that’s until after market parts become a thing.
They’re offering a 5 seat SUV body as well. Not a minivan, but, closer.
The minivan is important. That sliding door means my kids never slam the door open into the next car… Many people get too attached to perfect paint on their car even though they have a history of trading in “that old thing” every 3 years.
Also the SUV config is 2 doors only, not really comfortable for everyday use as a family.
Politics. It can be done
https://m.made-in-china.com/hot-china-products/Electric_Mini_Van.html
The Chinese government is subsidizing the cost of their EVs. They are smart enough to realize that’s the future and want people hooked on them as the supplier. So, yeah it can be done cheaply if you own the entire supply chain and receive government subsidies.
I want a people’s van.
Really tho you’d think that vw would be making an easy to maintain ev version of their Volkswagen van instead of targeting 60k+
Interesting, the telematics module is sold separately at $275.00. So for everyone worrying about spying, for this vehicle you got to opt-in and pay extra for it.
I read that the telematics package is meant for fleets, not average buyers
For remote app to vehicle features:
Description A plug-and-play solution that acts as a cellular bridge between your smartphone and your Slate vehicle, unlocking features like remote access and battery pre-conditioning.
Product details Includes: One (1) Telematics Unit, complete with a one year service subscription for your vehicle. Fits all body styles.
I’d hope you can precondition your battery from within the truck as well.
Never mind the low price, not having that shit built in is the killer feature for me, making it the only new car I would even consider buying. (It’s just too bad they won’t have a 4x4 version for another couple of years.)
It is kinda good that there’s an optional module available, though, because it means there’s an interface that, in theory, a third-party module running Free Software could hook into.
You don’t need 4 wheel drive with an EV truck, the weight is properly distributed between the 4 wheels, not like stupid pickups that put all the weight over the wrong drive wheels.
Pickups don’t need 4wd due to poor weight distribution, they need it for traction on loose surfaces.
JFC…take a physics class. The drive wheels are in back, the cab and motor are in front. Of course there is no traction, all the weight is at the wrong end and 99% of idiots who buy those trucks drive with empty beds.
My point is that 4WD is never used on pavement in pickups. Many pickups don’t even have 4WD and they do just fine, they have plenty of traction on pavement. Trucks don’t have 4WD due to weight distribution, they have it so people can take their trucks off the pavement. If you never intend to go off pavement, like so many pickup owners, you don’t need 4WD regardless of whether you’re in an ICE or EV truck. If you want to go offroad in an ICE or EV truck, you’ll want 4WD.
I have taken a few physics classes, was required to get some science credits to obtain my CS degree. I’m pretty sure they didn’t cover this concept as, well, duh.
I do if I want to take it on proper off-road trails, mudding and rock-crawling and such.
A pickup is supposed to be used such that the weight is properly loaded. If you don’t have the back full of firewood or something else anyway you are doing it wrong.
Then again if you don’t have a full 8 foot bed you are doing it wrong, and those are almost impossible to buy.
I have a modern-ish F150 with a single cab and 8ft bed. I feel like I have the only one that isnt a company truck.
because it means there’s an interface that, in theory, a third-party module running Free Software could hook into
Absolutely this!
I’m fairly sure that the aftermarket will sort out 4x4 situation
The aftermarket is not going to make an entirely different drive train.
If there is enough money they will. Though I agree with your doubt that enough people will buy this to make it worth it.
I’m fairly sure some spying is required by law, like the new driver cam legislation. Wonder how they’ll get past that.
The driver cam does not need Internet connectivity to meet the new standards.
I was wondering about that 2027 legislation and how this vehicle is affected. I didn’t see anything. Maybe that’s a next year production problem.
It goes into effect September 2027 and I’m guessing there will be a price increase.
Very interesting indeed.
As Canadian…
American company?, nope
Owned by Bezos?, hell nah
Sounds like it’s your chance to pull an Edison (like the Canadian Edison semi trucks).
Ew Edison…
But yes, some other poster also was surprised something like this could not be started up in Canada
I know our government here is also crappy and has tried to squash related initiatives before but I should look into it more
It’s never going to be released. Zero prototypes and being pushed by a billionaire.
At this point I think there’s a high likelihood that production will start close to their plan of late this year. As the other commenter said, you can go watch multiple videos of test drives. Pre-orders opened yesterday. But what do I know?
They’ve been promoting it recently and have several working prototypes that they’ve been driving influencers around in. There was one video with Marques Brownlee and they even let him drive it himself.
Bezos was one investor, not the owner
Slate raised at least $111 million in Series A financing, including an undisclosed amount from Bezos. Slate then raised $600 million in 2024 from Mark Walter, the controlling owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers and CEO of Guggenheim Partners, Jeff Bezos, and General Catalyst, a venture capital firm.[5] In mid-2026, the company said it had completed a $650m series C investment round, which took its total capital raised to $1.4bn.[6]
Bezos was seed money AND part of the owner conglomerate that raised all the capital the company started with in 2024. That is enough for me to avoid this like the plague as it will, certain as the sun is hot, be enshitified to the core
If you do not believe me, here is an article explaining how this is all a big Amazon initiative
https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/
I would truly not be surprised that this would be an attempt to take over there ev truck market, but manufacturers should have been paying attention. There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it
While I’m sure they’ll try to enshittify, the downside to that plan is that they need to make sure no one takes their place and they need to have something people want that they can enshittify. The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.
I drove a small truck at one point. Think a late 90s Tacoma, Ranger, or something like that. I don’t want an F250. I don’t want a Ram 3500. I just want to be able to haul a bed full of bikes to the MTB trail and help my friends move a washing machine.
Exactly mini-truck FTW! They used to be everywhere. Now you can’t find one.
Slate has a size comparison widget on their website. You can show it with the silhouette of a current full size pickup and a circa 1985 small pickup. It’s almost exactly the same size as that generation.
That’s cool. 99spokes does that for bicycles and I’ve found it useful in that respect. Would be cool to compare all of the cars I ever had like that.
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I really love my hybrid Maverick. It is still bigger than I want, but it works really well and averages about 40mpg. I can also fit it in a normal parking spot, which is nice.
I wish the Maverick was body on frame and had better tow capacity. It’s almost what I want.
There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it
Absolutely correct. The American car makers keep on saying “we only want big trucks” but that is complete BS, there is plenty of demand for smaller trucks which is why they have lobbied the gov to all but ban any possible import
The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.
While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.
If the company is not for sale, then they would have the monopoly on small trucks and thus, freedom to enshitify
there is plenty of demand for smaller trucks
Blame a 62 year old law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
I had this badboy in the 90s and it was the most practical vehicle.
While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.
I agree, but without the complications of a combustion engine, it makes it a lot easier. You can buy ev conversion kits for around $15k, so there’s also an “I’ll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers” option.
so there’s also an “I’ll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers” option.
Always the best option! hahahaha
There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it
Ford is. The Maverick is selling like hotcakes (not the 60s coupe). And they have an electric small truck coming soon as well. There’s also Tello.
There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it
That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.
Toyota is about to release one to compete with the Maverick, and Dodge has a small and a mid sized truck in the works.
The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz
Neither are small.
I’m guessing you’ve never seen them next to a regular pickup. They’re 20-40in shorter than a Ram 1500 (depending on cab configuration).
My Santa Cruz is shorter than their engine compartment. When I park between two regular trucks mine looks like a hotwheels truck.
Shit, it’s even smaller than a Toyota Helix.
Those are midsized. I would say Hyundai is the only one with the Santa Cruz, and that’s not really a truck.
Edit: I stand corrected, I had assumed the maverick was rwd/awd, not fwd/awd. I’m going to amend my statement and say the maverick is also not really a truck. I consider having the drive wheels under the payload to be an important aspect of a truck. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.
The Santa Cruz is absolutely a truck. It even has a 3500lb towing capacity. Plus it’s only 4in shorter than the Maverick.
The Santa Cruz is exactly as much as a truck as the Ford Maverick is (which is to say, they’re both unibody vehicles).
That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.
And they are still inefficient monsters compared to what a real small truck should be:
Ford Maverick (2022+):
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Length: Approx. 199.7 inches (5.07 meters) almost 1.7 meters larger, 6 feet or so
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Width: Approx. 72.6 inches (1.84 meters)
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Height: Approx. 68.7 inches (1.75 meters)
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Bed Length: 4.5 feet (approx. 54 inches / 1.37 meters) 45% LESS cargo space than a kei truck
Typical Kei Truck (e.g., Suzuki Carry):
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Length: Max legal limit is 3.4 meters (133.9 inches / 11.15 feet).
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Width: Max legal limit is 1.48 meters (58.3 inches). Often around 1.4 meters.
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Height: Varies, but typically around 1.9–2.0 meters (75–79 inches) including the cab/bed height, though the cargo bed side walls are very low (often ~1 meter total height from ground).
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Bed Length: Typically around 2.0 meters (78 inches / 6.5 feet), which is actually longer than the Maverick’s bed in some configurations relative to the vehicle length, though the total footprint is much smaller.
Kei trucks are power limited and speed limited for urban use only.
yes. they are small so they can work best in urban areas… nobody wants a kei truqk to work a farmein texas
You gotta add a normal US truck to your stats.
The Santa Cruz and Maverick are 2-3.5ft shorter than a Ram 1500.
I have a Santa Cruz, and it looks like a toy truck next to the normal ones. Especially next to duallies.
oh yes most others are way bigger… but I was comparing the “small” trucks that are actually available in the USA to make the point they are not in the same level the real small trucks are
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For the life of me I don’t know why we don’t develop something like this in Canada. It’s so frustrating, we have the people, the manufacturing space, the materials, we could do this.
Whenever something about Canada making vehicles gets brought up, all the nay sayers climb on immediately saying how it can’t be done. I’m sick and tired of them. Nothing worth doing comes easy, if left to these naysayers we’d all be still living in squalor.
We need to move away from the U.S. entanglement, the American public can’t be trusted to elect a proper government.
Building our own low cost, modest feature vehicles would be an excellent start. How many features of a car do people use for a normal commute to work, or such? I’d love a truck like the Slate, except it has to have 4 wheel drive ability. After having Hondas with all wheel drive, I’ll never go back to an older 2 wheel drive vehicle.
Ive had TWO vehicles that were manufactured in Canada. They were both fine. What weirdos are saying canada cant build cars?
We don’t do R&D in Canada. All we do is assemble shitty vehicles for export.
4WD is unnecessary if you use proper winter tires.
Before the current political chaos, you would have made a mint. A little ingenuity and affordable value, along with the worlds second biggest car market next door would have been huge
100000000% agree
Same as a European, I do hope it succeeds though and as much as I hate bezos if he’s backing shit like this my opinion of him has increased by about 3.83%.
Hmm? We have much better options available in Europe
New Chinese EVs will be hitting the streets soon. Much cheaper and higher quality.
Higher quality from CCP run China. Nope. If the EV was from Taiwan, then yes.
Wow, people really are this dumb.
Lol.
I heard that Bezos left the company as an investor. I don’t blame you for disliking anything American, but Slate Auto seems alright so far…
He was never “in it”; but he put up the seed money, then participated in the main round of fund raising and placed a ton of his people in the company. So even if his is not personally involved, he has all the strings he needs to pull it where he wants it to go (which, IMO, means Slate will be enshitified to the full the moment those little trucks start selling)
https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/
What I wonder is how exactly are they going to enshittify it? It’s extremely barebones and modular in a way that anyone can design add-ons and accessories for it. I can see them doing subscriptions and the like for various add-ons but you can always just get the base model and get add-ons elsewhere.
They can betray the customer in many different ways… I am not willing to pay $25K to find out
I only have a truck so i can tow a trailer. I wish they included some towing capacity and range numbers.
Cargo is 1500lbs. Towing is 2000lbs. I doubt… at the same time.
Those are numbers similar to a small truck in the 1980’s. Im sure its fine unless youre one of these guys who NEEDS to haul four tons of cow shit to texas twice a week or whatever excuse is always given against a small electric vehicle.
The payload is actually pretty damn good for a truck of its size. Compare it to an S10, most are rated for 999 pounds in the bed. In which I have hauled cow shit, half a ton at a time, from one end of the county to the other. Thing is…I don’t think the Slate can carry 1500 pounds of cow shit, the bed is too small.
Towing capacity is better than they initially said, earlier they quoted 1400, 2000 is lawnmower trailer territory. Compare that to the 5600 pound towing capacity of my S10.
That would tow a utility trailer with a lawn care setup. That’s not bad at all.
There’s an entire website about it
My buildout went to $33,600 for fastback with roof rack and speakers
While that’s a lot more than base, it’s exactly what I want and it’s still a great price compared to any other EV available to me. The only thing it would really not be good at is road trips but I still have my model Y
But as a big and tall guy I would never buy a vehicle without trying it to see if it’s comfortable for me …… and to see if I can remove the back seats and fit it out as a camper. (My brother is doing that with a sienna hybrid and he probably has the right idea: lack of range could be a problem if you want to camp for a week with no electric)
If you are camping for a week a few solar panels can give you some useful range, perhaps enough to get a full charge (depending on sun, how many panels, and what else you do for power)
“Hey Jim, can you get started on dinner?”
“No, I’m busy setting up my 25 panel 5kw solar array so I can get home!”
That sounds ridicoulous, but it’d still take 14 hours of broad sunlight to charge the Rivian R1T with the 141kwh battery from 25 to 75%.
Unless all the camping you do is staying for a week in each location, or just stay in campgrounds near highways, an EV just doesn’t work yet, as much as I want it to. Offroading is brutal on range in both gas and electric vehicles, and without a way to refuel quickly in rural areas, it just doesn’t work. If there were as many fast chargers as there are gas stations, it probably would be viable, though you’d still run into the edge case where you want to go further between charges and can’t simply bring a Jerry can with you.
I understood this as camping in one location, or parking in one remote location and hiking for a week. This is a fairly common way to camp. Over a week you can get a useful charge if you are not driving. Likely just 1kw would be enough to get a useful charge over a week. If you are driving to a new spot every day this doesn’t work (unless the drive is really short).
I suppose I’m not the type to camp like that. I usually stay in each location two or three nights tops. Also, I don’t think I’d feel comfortable relying on solar to get me home, even if I was in the same spot for a week. If the weather changes to rainy/overcast and I’m getting 100w instead of a kw, I wouldn’t want to be stranded. I’m also not a fair-weather camper, and go out in all conditions, which could be considered unusual.
I hate the state of current website reporting.
so many sites give so much information but absolutely refuses to provide the original website or source. Instead, deciding to send the viewer through ClickHell as they try to navigate their own website sending the user in circles usually via links that go to their own pages to propagate views/clicks. I hate it
How hard is it to just link to the Slate’s main webpage after reporting on the product that way, the viewer can look at it themselves. Not one of the web pages they link there or any of the pages in said links lead to the actual vehicles site that they are reporting on.
Only 2 doors for the SUV is pretty wonky.
I mean, Blazers and Broncos have been around forever as 2-door SUVs, not a big issue there
ah, but todays full-sized husky American kids can’t squeeze past the seats in a two-door.
well it’s not a minivan
FYI: it looks like slate has switched battery chemistry and suppliers. They will now be using LFP batteries. Cheaper, but they’ll last longer. Especially if you charge them to 100% and discharge them below 15%.
An overall win, as there was a zero chance I would have bought one if they put the NMC batteries in it they were going to use.
There will no longer be battery options for a small 150 mile range battery or a bigger battery that would go around 240 miles, though. Now (due to LFP batteries not being as energy dense) there’s only going to be one battery option that they claim will have a 205 mile range.
Unfortunately for me, this means I won’t be getting one. I need to go 180 miles round trip between charges, and that’s just cutting it way too close. Especially during winter time when the range would be reduced by quite a bit.
Yeah, same for me. Buying groceries or going to see a doctor is a 100+mile round trip for me. At a 240 mile range, it was doable for me. At around 205 miles, that’s cutting it really close considering winters here can be very cold trimming the range. And while I know I can charge at home, chargers in the wild are still far and few between.
I still want one though. I’m very jealous of those can find them useful. The whole concept of being able to absolutely repair and change your base vehicle at home and when you want to is going to be a big selling point to many.
Yeah. I’m hoping it’s a big success and after a couple model years all our supply issues with Trump’s dumbass and AI and lack of tax incentives for EV will be different and they release one with a longer range. I want a 20 year vehicle (my Prius is about 20 and it’s still going like a boss at nearly 300k miles) so ideally, with battery ware and such, I’d like one that would start with a 300 mile range. I’d expect that to get me 200 miles in the winter after 10 years of battery ware.
