Since the election I’ve kinda buried my head in the sand to try and stay sane, so I’m not sure what projections are looking like for the real estate market. Unfortunately I need to move pretty ASAP and I’m having the worst luck with rentals.
So, anyone have any advice or an idea of the outlook in the next few months?
I’m in the process of buying a new house.
I think “good time” is just kind of luck. I’m buying now because circumstances make it the best choice. Interest rates are kind of high (mine is 7%) and if that drops a few, I’ll refinance to get a better rate.
I looked for houses that had a space easily convertible to a MIL suite cut off from the rest of the house. My plan is to get the house payment down as quick as possible with a renter in the MIL suite.
Great advice in the other comments, so I’ll only add this - with this being your first house, if you can afford it, do a multifamily unit or a property that can be used as multifamily. Nearly everywhere is in a housing shortage, so you’ll be able to get a good win win with some renters that can help pay your mortgage faster while they have an affordable place to live. Best if the units can be fully separated so less drama.
Trying to work out house price trends is like trying to catch a falling knife. My advice would always be that you should just buy when you have the deposit and know you can make the mortgage payments.
I’m neutral on the housing market right now. People buying houses are generally living in them (or renting them), there’s very little house flipping like in 2005-06. There’s also no interest-only mortgages, so people actually have the cash flow to stay. Rates are probably not going up, but they might come down a little. If they do drop, I think prices will go up proportionately such that the monthly payment is the same either way. New housing is being built, but not fast enough to make a major impact on demand in the near term.
Altogether, I think housing in the US is “fairly” valued on a supply/demand basis at the moment. If we get a recession, prices might dip, but I would be very surprised to see another crash like 2007-09. However, I also don’t expect to see prices go up quickly from here other than in response to lower interest rates. So, if I were making a new purchase decision today, I’d be thinking about the following:
- Do I plan to stay 5+ years (the longer, the better)
- Can I comfortably afford to pay the mortgage (or is it at least comparable to rent)?
- Can I afford a major repair bill? Especially if any of the big ticket items will hit their typical end of life in the next 5 years.
Here are some of my major home maintenance expenses from the last 10 years:
- Water supply line to the house failed (polybutylene): $2.5k
- Tankless hot water unit failed: $3.5k
- Wildlife exclusion due to rats in the attic and crawlspace: $2k
- Electrical repairs due to rats in the crawlspace chewing on wiring: $3.4k
- Totally gut and rebuild kitchen & bathroom due to plumbing failure: $2k deductible, plus my homeowner’s insurance increased every year since
- Replaced failed mini-split HVAC system: $3.5k
- Dig up and repair sewage line that was clogged with roots: $3.5k
- New sod to repair the lawn after the plumbers dug it up: $1.5k
Those are the big items I recall that I had little choice in. I also replaced my way past end of life 2 zone HVAC system for about $30k. I could have kept the old one running longer and I could have gotten a cheaper replacement (maybe $22k), but the old system was struggling and couldn’t keep the house comfortable anymore. I seem to recall hearing a good rule of thumb is to set aside 1-2% of your home’s value every year for major maintenance and that seems about right from my experience.
Since 2008 the best time to buy has been when you have the money and find something appropriate. It’s no different now. Millennials have been hoping for a housing crash they could take advantage of for 16 years and it hasn’t materialized. Prices just keep going up and historical evidence suggests that will continue until another crash at an indeterminate point in the future. Trying to time that point is only going to leave you as a permanent renter.
I went with buying raw land out of the city, for me it’s a 30 minute drive and no traffic, my “rent” is under $200 for the year of property taxes. I own the land for less than 1 year of rent.
I can live in an RV, and I can build a house or convert a shed to live in so it’s super affordable, plus I have room for a garden to feed my family.
I’m not trying to step on your comment, but I read this as unrealistic? It sounds like you bought land, but don’t actually live on it currently. Like, you CAN live in an RV, but what are you actually doing with it now? Again, not trying to be a dick. I actually considered the exact same, but once we started crunching numbers on what we wanted, just buying the land and building on it was out of our budget.
I really doubt the guy who loves low interest rates, looks to be trying to devalue the dollar purposefully, and is a corporate landlord himself will make a lot of moves that purposefully deflate the price of housing. He may do it accidentally, but I kind of doubt that too. If Trump gets his way and deports a bunch of people, welp…guess what a lot of the construction labor pool is? A mortgage is essentially a long-term bet that the dollar will be worth less than it is today. If you can afford to get one at current mortgage rates, I would pull the trigger. If rates drop again you can refinance, but what you will never be able to do is get a 2025 offer accepted on a house that’s now worth much more in 2030. My main regret in buying my place–in the pants-shitting part of the early pandemic–was not doing it earlier.
idk, house prices are rising, you may want to either buy as soon as you can or wait for the bubble to pop
Just look into what you can afford and what kind of loan you can get and see if it makes sense. I don’t think there’s going to be a crash because there is still a huge deficit of new building. I expect that there will be more housing built this year, but there’s still a high demand, so those new houses will be pricey. In the long term I expect more inventory to open up as the age group dying out is the largest age group. However, that inventory will be places that are less desirable to younger people. The population of small towns is about to shrink drastically.
The best time to buy is when you need to, it’s hard to time the market and if you are going to stay there for a long time all that matters is can you afford it. Where I live they sure seem overvalued, but when we bought our house I was sure it was overpriced and the theoretical value now is 2x that amount not even 5 years later, WTF? So my guess is we will see a downturn, especially with the new government, but really the best time to buy doesn’t always align with the best price.
Remember that maintenance on a house is expensive too, build that into your affordability calculation.
Not answering your question. But if you do buy, don’t listen to the realtor or loan officer about how big a loan you can afford. Both are incentivized to sell you the biggest house/loan. Neither will care when you’re struggling to pay for it.
You’re monthly payment plus insurance plus taxes should be something you could safely pay for six months while unemployed. If that’s impossible, get a small house. The worst possible situation is being house poor.
Things are only seemingly getting worse. I’d say buy while you can still afford to and there is inventory, who knows what kind of crazinesss is coming to the economy after January.
If things get too wild, sellers will remove inventory, only making both rent and existing inventory prices increase.
No but its only gonna get more expensive so do it if you can swing it.
Whatever bad luck you’re having with rentals is nothing compared to how badly home ownership can go, renting isn’t all that bad even if it is more expensive. What’s really expensive and financially distressing is a sudden and expensive furnace / roof replacement, flooding, fire, the list goes on
Mortgages aren’t going away anytime soon, start off with renting and see where that takes you before jumping into a $400,000+ loan
Well that’s a super nuanced answer though.
IF OP can afford a house AND can keep enough emergency savings to deal with an issue, it may still be better to buy. Rental money is just gone forever in exchange for not assuming any risk on the property, but it retains no value.
If OP can’t afford to buy at all, this post is stupid, so the question is really if there’s no money left for emergencies. In which case, the obvious answer is keep renting because a single point of failure pushing you out of your house is a bad proposition.
If there’s SOME money… It just depends on the house. Some of the failure points are covered by inspection, but it could be risky. Better to not max out your ability to borrow if at all possible.
First few years are spent in interest so it’s also going straight to the bank
Equity is uncertain in this market, especially with unexpected maintenance
Rent comfortably for a few years is still the better choice, buying a house now that might fall in price is a terrible risk
Depends how much money you have an the mortgage length you pick. Every payment covers some principle and some interest. There is no situation where you get a house and then just pay interest. This is a lack of understanding of how payments work.
The first few years are overwhelmingly paid towards interest and not the principal, it’s not an equal ratio throughout the mortgage. I think you missed some fine print
If you get into a mortgage then sell in 2 years you would have paid off less than 2 years worth of payments to the principal and you’re not getting that money back, that’s straight to the bank
Depends…
Got a path to immigrate to a country thats better than the US? Well just save the money and bring it with you when you exit.
No paths towards a country better than the US? Just buy a house like you normally would if the election didnt happen yet.