The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.

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    No shit. I’d bet money the Cybertruck design isn’t coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.

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          I mean, if I were working on that project I’d either laugh so hard everyday or I’d have to quit. It’s just so comically bad.

          I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have “stolen” his design.

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          I’ve said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It’s a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.

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          actually… that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!

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            No Mercy was the best

            Huh, I’ve never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.

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            The game play is great, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I don’t think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.

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              But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant

              Super Kiwi 64, the Toree series, Dusk, Anodyne 2, a billion indie horror games, Frogun, Signalis, A Short Hike

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                I stand corrected. I think I’ve only heard of “A short hike” in the list you posted, but Super Kiwi 64 is… i don’t think I’ve seen anything like that in 20 years. Very interesting list, thank you.

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        The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It’s not just a truck; it’s a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.

        Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.

        Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankind’s most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovation—qualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.

        In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.

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      The Satisfactory version is far better, square wheels and all.

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      There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time

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      The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.

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        So does this count as another “Simpsons predicted this” moment after Homer basically does the same thing?

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      Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I’m one of them this is the people like me would want.

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        If someone rolled up in that, I’d not consider them anything but a “real sucker”.

        “A weak man’s idea of a strong man” comes to mind.

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      Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and here’s what it said (emphasis mine):

      The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen’s innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.

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        Technically, not wrong. It’s worth noting that Cybertruck is shockingly different from Von Holzhausen’s previous work, which all share sleek, modern designs and principles (dare I say critically-acclaimed, beautiful). I think it’s obvious there was heavy “outside influence” for the truck (as emphasized), and the timing also lines up with Musk’s growing (untreated, public) mental illnesses.

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          Yeah, I’d hoped my point was clear that Musk designed this truck. It’s obvious that Von Holzhausen wasn’t given much flexibility because no designer in their right mind, especially one that designed the Models, S, X, and 3 (which I agree are good looking cars), would design this thing. This has Musk stamped all over it with its impractical design and wildly abrasive aesthetic.

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            I thought your point was “Look at what random snippets a language model collected off the internet”.

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            A company can miss targets and still be extremely successful if you look at the body of work. SpaceX absolutely dominates the space launch industry, there’s nobody close.

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              Especially space stuff.

              No project in space stuff ever meets targets… Unless they reduce the goals at some point because they know they can’t make it.

              Look at Apollo (and this is no criticism) - they had some seriously lofty goals at first, and then as they learned stuff they changed goals to what was achievable with that new knowledge and developing tech.

              This is the heart of Agile project management - because you learn as you go it’s easier to adjust priorities and targets.

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            They’ve launched the Falcon 9 88 times this year dwarfing the nearest launch provider 10 to 1… They’re doing fine.

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        Spacex is a massive success, with little thanks to Musk. Those engineers are fucking rock stars.

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      Also, the Roadster. Announced six years ago, supposedly launching next year, but we’ll see…

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        wow we found someone who WANTS more Musk spam…

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          Hey, Trump spam was fun too while it lasted. It’s just that you need to watch that dumpster fire from a safe distance. Something like 5000 km should be fine.

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          I mean I don’t care to be honest. If I see something about Elon, it doesn’t mean I have to look at it.

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    Who would have thought making a chassis out of a material that is denser than mild steel would result in a vehicle that is heavier? It’s a truck, horrible aero drag and rolling resistance from the get go. Difficult to imagine a worse target for an EV project.

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    Has anyone tossed a brick at the windows yet? Or has that debacle been swept under the rug?

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      It was a steel ball. They recreated the event with the same guy at the delivery event, but this time with a baseball and the dude gave it the most obvious limp wristed toss, it was incredibly cringe I highly recommend you seek that clip out because it’s absolutely hilarious.

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    some customers have expressed their disappointment in online forums.

    Wow. That’s brave of them. Throwaways, I assume.

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      That’s a bit much, isn’t it? It’s a brand new weird-ass truck, people are going to talk about it. And the article isn’t exactly celebrating it.

      If this article was about a new car from another brand, would you complain about it? I thought we wanted more content on this platform. Or we could just stick to memes I guess…

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      I’d agree that I see way too much Elon stuff on my lemmy feed. This one I’m more interested in than 99% of the others. Maybe it’s just cause I’m a gear head, but I’ll sure as heck take it over the 10 X (formerly known as Twitter) “news” articles that I scrolled past to get here. News in quotes because it is no longer news that X (more commonly known as Twitter) and its owner are dumb.

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        I find that a don’t sprain my thumb scrolling over something that I don’t want to read

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          The oldest and lamest justification for having shitty and repetitive content.

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            Choose a different platform them. Or use a filter. Or I dunno fucking whine about other people discussing what interests them.

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      It’s his broke mind virus. It’s sometimes fascinating but I’m mostly over his antics.

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      For some reason, all Lemmings seem to have a constant hate boner for him. I don’t like him, but this is just taking it to a whole new level…

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        There’s plenty of people I don’t like and I spend basically no time thinking about them. Why these people let Elon live rent free in their minds is beyond me. Not a day goes by without a thread about him on the front page along with the most predictable comment section imaginable. Apparently the glue holding Lemmy together is the mutual hatred of certain things and people. That’s just sad. We’re giving them what every asshole in the world desires the most; attention.

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              You don’t understand why people might more frequently discuss the actions of someone with enormous power and influence, than they would those of Darryl from high school?

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                This is recreational outrage. There are plenty of actually bad people out there that cause tons of suffering and are aspiring to make the world a worse place but instead people are complaining about some tech bro that’s hardly any more influencial than the Kardashians.

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          And every day someone posts about how everyone else posts about something that they, personally are not interested in. I guess everyone else is wrong

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        When he agrees with someone who says that people like me are trying to destroy white people (insinuating Jews aren’t even white), I think “a constant hate boner” is appropriate.

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      I recently saw one in the wild and it’s even uglier in person than it was in pictures. For a second I thought someone DIYed that nasty looking car; nope, actual designers puked that thing out.

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        No designers involved, unless you think Elon is a designer. The whole Tesla design studio revolted over having to work on it. They designed something else, which of course Elon refused. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if it was engineered so the other option can be swapped in when this one flops.

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      Yes. Everyone else thinks it’s the bestly engineered and designed vehicle that’s ever been made.

      /s

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      Am I the only one who initially thought this was just some elaborate Elon meme, but is now shocked to find that he actually built this abomination?

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      Nah, i think most people think it’s ugly as fuck, because it is! And still I like the aesthetic? Or at least the idea of it.

      For once, it’s committed to the bit. Very few compromises were made on the looks, and those to comply with regulatory standards, not to make it more appealing. I’m a world where most cars look kinda the same, that counts something.

      It’s not trying to be beautiful. It’s trying to be unique, divisive, to make you think “what is THAT thing??” whenever you encounter one, and on that grounds I’d say it succeeds.

      However this kind of looks suffer greatly from the soddy build quality. If you are going for pure straight lines and angles you better make sure they are perfect, because of they are not people are going to notice and it’s going to spoil the effect.

      So, in summary, cool idea but poor execution, perhaps if Elon had let his designers do their work they could have pulled it off. Also Hyundai did better but with more compromises.

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    You really don’t want to be a pedestrian crossing the road in front of one of these. Just in case.

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    30%? It’s like 50-100% more money than promised. Also lower payload/towing capacities.

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      My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%

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      Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase

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    Modern day DMC DeLorean. All the disappointment and the crazy CEO to go along with it. Maybe when Tesla folds up they can get a movie made about the truck like Back to the Future. Wonder what the movie will be called?

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      Call the movie “Back to the Stoneage”. Then send a tech billionaire to the past where nobody gives a fuck about them and they have to work to survive for the first time in their pathetic lives.

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        If they have to work to survive, maybe any time from the 1800s on would work. You imagine a genius from the modern day, with all his knowledge, could blow the competition out of the water, create a one-man technological revolution, and radically change the course of human events!

        …until you realize he’s not actually a genius. He’s a dumbass. He just owned capital that other people used to do things. So if you remove him from his money and even name recognition, he’s just some loser who keeps asking if ketamine has been invented yet.

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        Can we make it a documentary about sending Elon and a bunch of other tech billionaires to Mars? That way we can enjoy it when their ship breaks up and they all die in space.

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    Seems like at best its almost on par with the F-150 Lightning for the fanboys…it’s just $30k more.

    Seriously if you’re a fan boy just buy the F-150Lightning and a Model 3 and you’ll save money.

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    You know this headline is fake because Cybertruck fan boys would never ever act like it’s anything but a 100% perfect personal space shuttle + superiority license

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      BUT YOU CAN SHOOT IT WITH A BOW AN ARROW.

      Checkmate, hater

      /s if it’s not completely fucking obvious

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    The mkbhd first impressions were fascinating for what he didn’t say. I’m guessing that he didn’t want to burn the good times he has with Tesla so he really seemed to be trying to positively spin everything. At least, that’s my interpretation. The mirrors were particularly… https://youtu.be/XxOh12Uhg08?si=jlfuFU70v5cGd8HV