Wow, so being top is not gay enough apparently.
So bizarre to me. If I were forced to choose “which is gayer” id say the top is the gayest position.
As a hetero id easily be able to take a cock up the ass to avoid getting sent to kill or die. I’d struggle quite a bit more to maintain an erection strong enough to go in a man. Especially with the context motivator in the back of my head.
Modern western ideas where the most important part of sexual orientation is who you find attractive is somewhat new, and while it’s gained a lot of popularity among queer people worldwide it’s still not the default model everywhere. In a lot of times and places things such as who you have sex with regardless of attraction or what role you take in sex are considered more important (also at what age). Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people were to see a man who only has receptive sex and exclusively with women as more gay than a man who exclusively tops men.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if they’re thinking that a straight man might be willing to top a man to get out of the military, but not to bottom
who would have guessed, that a culture that hates woman also hates every feminine act.
ironically the exclusive gay top is the manliest man by that definition, he doesn’t even enjoy the softness of women. good=more manly, bad=more feminine.
it all checks out with my experience (no, not sexual) way to many of the second or third generation turks in germany have a completely fucked up view of masculinity and women. gotta look tough all the time! so tough! turkey is the best! erdogan is great! this sub culture was strong when i was in school and is alive and well today
Welcome to the old Greek/romen model! Sexuality is a matter of position and power dynamics. Not sexual attraction.
The absurd byzantine rules people create for themselves around this shit is wild. Why can’t humans just let people consensually fuck whomever they want?
The majority of the world kinda still uses the old Greek model to some degree. Sexuality is determined by position and power dynamics not by attraction.
My Turkish friend says there’s a running joke of “The Turkish military has the largest gay porn collection in the world”
it reflects that on the online porn sites
I am a bisexual guy from Turkey, this is old news.
From what I heard these days you just go to a psychiatrist and act a bit gay. Then if the psych is not an asshole they give you something called “pink certificate” which makes you exempt from military service.
But like, I would give my nudes to the government if it means not doing military service. Nobody can make me serve for this (or any) country
My compulsory service is currently on hold because I am studying in university. Me and my boyfriend are planning to go the the military psychiatrist together to get pink certificates for both of us. Once we finish uni and gtfo of family home ofc
Based (of you).
Does Turkey not allow for conscientious objection? Or is it just far too difficult to meet their standards?
conscientious objection
In a country where saying anything bad to the flag is a crime, that is literal treason. You’ll probably get your citizenship revoked just for asking
glory to the Turkish master race
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I don’t know for sure but “send gay nudes or get drafted” sounds a little gay.
“I’m not gay, but I need to you take some gay photos for me”
“and I need you to do this specific pose otherwise it doesn’t count”. There is probably a sub for it, too!
“So Eddie, we’ve been best friends since first grade, right?”
Pumpkin, it’s not just any gay nudes of yourself. It’s gay nudes with very specific asks. The kinds of asks you might expect from a patron of your OnlyFans account. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
There’s something wrong with it if there’s a threat involved.
That’s what makes it hot.
That will be next wave of text scams: “You are due to be drafted, unless you send nudes of yourself getting railed up the ass, with your face showing, and either a big smile, or some other expression that demonstrates your pleasure. It must be accompanied by a 500 word essay about how much you enjoyed it. In detail.”
I think it’s like the bear hunter joke where you have to keep resubmitting it for even more clear close up photos.
“hey there burly bear”
So apparently tops aren’t gay?
apparently it is a whole cultural thing. it ties in to why male homosexuality is talked about in the bible and lesbians were not. without an obvious “top” it wasnt worth discussing.
iirc greeks like Spartans looked at it this way. funny how people feel the need to make distinctions, we’re a strange species.
Romans too. It wasn’t a scandal that Julius Caesar was fucking men, it was a scandal that he was being fucked by men
cheeky bois
No no no no you misunderstand
Bottoms are women
:3
Reminds me of “I’m straight so anyone that turns me on is a woman.”
Yeah this is what really stood out to me! Like wtf??
It’s only gay if the penises touch.
I thought one penis has to enter the other penis through the peephole.
Finally an ethical application for generative AI
Apparently it’s the gay man that takes it, not the gay man that gives it in Turkey. Wild.
Meh, just archaic. In ye olde times it wasn’t gay to fuck, it was gay to be fucked. Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, modern times Turkey, etc.
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I knew it was possible
The hat stays ON during whatever the fuck this is.
Totally not gay.
Typical Saturday with the boys
Please tell me you have a source for that
… does this qualify as clownfuckery?
That would break my dick ngl
You just need to add more men so the diameter of the fuck train increases
Determine the maximum angle you can handle, x.
360⁰ ÷ x = number of men required.
Put that in a geometry textbook!
I need someone to get to the bottom of this.
It’s for men with already broke dicks. Usually these rings come in pairs, with a clockwise and counterclockwise group based on broke-dick-handedness.
Real large gatherings do end up with further segmentation based on severity of the hook
No one gets left behind
🎵 human centipede, human centipede 🎵
Until Arthur Prostate made his big discovery.
The Roman attitude still persists in the region, I guess?
Romans fucked up everything from beyond the thomb. The echoes of corruption ring into eternity…
Getting fucked is gay. Doing the fucking isn’t. Duh /s
If it’s the same sex fucking it’s gay but your likely being sarcastic
Definitely sarcastic, but also, that is a traditional belief in that area.
Yeah it’s the same with, kissing is too gay
The 301st Power Bottom Division was a decorated outfit before the Turkish military instituted this policy.
they dictated the speed and intensity.
I’m not gay, but if taking a few pictures could spare me going to this madness that is military, i’m in!
how deep inside your mouth are you willing to take it?
What does that even mean?
your task is taking a convincing picture doing homosexual acts in the passive position where your face is clearly visible
where do you draw the line?
A line between what? And if I have to be in ‘passive’ position, why are you asking about dicks in my mouth?
Military recruiters:
Of course the clerical class wants gay porn “for research purposes”.
The all-holy ones, who only do holy things to their altar boys.
Turkish government has a history of oppressing Kurdish clergy tbf.
hey now, this is Turkey, not the Vatican.
Military: Recruiting soldiers. Sorry, no power bottoms.
Soldiers: awwwww :'(
Nah, it says to be excluded you have to be the “passive partner” so power bottoms are still allowed.
Big, strong, military men must always come out on top.
Sounds like Turkish military recruiters have a bit of a fetish …
And the photos must show you as the passive partner
So I guess you and your partner have to switch positions and each have a photo to get out of it. No two for one!
You hear that?! It’s only gay if your recieve so you can pound as many man-ass’s your dick can handle!
Alternative explanation - the Turkish army is okay with gays as long as they are dominant.
Which… strangely makes sense.
even between heteronormative gays that logic is normal and that’s why i despise them any time they belittle bottoms
I mean we’re not going to explain bottom shaming to the Turkish military but the bottom does not have to be sub. Dom bottom is absolutely a thing.
Historically speaking, this isnt wrong… Im not a historian, but I think its recorded that alexander the great and Julius Ceasar were known to bang dudes, but it wasnt considered gay back then because giving dick wasnt gay, only receiving was…
There is something about Caesar being mocked for being on the receiving end when he went to Asia Minor early in his career. Although that was probably slander, it shows this was viewed as a negative.
“No dudes are banging me, that’s QUEER! I do all the banging around here, the rest of you are the Queers!”
Throw in that athenian politician who has a name I never remember… One of the ‘charges’ against him was that he was acting as a bottom despite being older. The athenian pederasty had the older man taking a younger man as ‘appropriate,’ while the reverse was viewed as scandalous.
Yeah, but I like girls. Will they let me out if I like ugly girls? Or fat ones? C’mon, this isn’t fair. Gays get all the breaks.
So I can’t be gay if I’m the one sucking dick?
Not according to them!
No, I think the dick SUCKER is the gay one. It would have to be the RECEPTIVE partner, not necessarily the active one.
Who’s catching the cum? That’s the gay one.
Of course not. What a ridiculous idea.
But what if I get pegged by my gf? Does that count?
Inquiring minds want to know.
We need the pics. For Turkey.
Gobble gobble.
