• Erasmus@lemmy.world
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    Navage sorta makes what you are describing. It’s a neti pot of a device that has 2 tanks. One that will hold a saline solution and one for the ‘waste’ water.

    You insert the nozzles into both nostrils and push the button and one pushes water into one nostril while the other has a light suction that pulls the water out the other and into the waste tank.

    I’ve used one for a couple years and it legit works. Great for allergies and sinus issues. Just google it or look it up on Youtube.

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      Is there any benefit to collecting it in a second tank as opposed to just letting it drain into the sink?

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        With the Navage you can save it for later instead of letting it go down the drain!

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        mainly that you don’t have to worry about doing it over the sink or holding it just perfect so the waste goes in the sink and not on the faucet or the cabinet or whatnot. I personally prefer just emptying the waste container. Also it tries to force you into its proprietary pods but there are plenty of jury rig ways to make it work with your salt solution.

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        The point is the suction; I’m not sure how they’d get decent suction just dumping the waste instead of having a closed second tank.

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    What about those things they have for sucking the snot out of congested baby noses?

    I imagine they would work on anyone as long as the top is wide enough for the nostril.

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    Suction machines are used to remove excess mucus from the sinuses and throat in medical settings. The public should not use these machines because you can accidentally stimulate a nerve in your throat that can cause your heart to slow, beat irregularly, or stop.

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        I’m guessing this is the vagus nerve he’s describing? Longest nerve in the body, and the effect being a vasovagal syncope.

        I have had this nerve stimulated by severe gastrointestinal issues twice, and the effect can only be described as dying haha. I’m being hyperbolic, but I swear both times I passed out felt like the end.

        Complete lack of strength, cold sweats, weird hearing issues and then passing out into a fencing response, convulsing, and then waking up within 30 seconds, no confusion, completely aware of what just happened and how much it sucked. Different than a seizure.

        Fun fact:

        one of these pass outs were at the beginning of an international flight while seated in an exit row. The flight hadnt even taken off from the airport. They even let me stay.

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    A neti pot with boiled (not boiling) salted water is great! In one nostril, out the other, and after 10 crappy seconds, my stuffed runny nose is clear for hours.

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      A little baking soda to lower the PH takes away some of the unpleasantness. With the right PH, salinity, and temperature, you barely feel the water flowing. You can also add just a drop of baby shampoo to help clean out crusties.

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    Well, I didn’t, but now I won’t be able to stop thinking about it when I get a cold.

    Thanks a lot, jerk, I was happy in my ignorance!

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      I’ve been looking for somewhere that sells USP-grade salt and baking soda in bulk so I don’t have to waste so much material dealing with the packets, but I haven’t been able to find anything legit.

      The pre-measured packets are really convenient though. If you’re nose is really blocked it’s good to use between 1 and 2 packets for a hypertonic solution.

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        Get some surgical tubing.

        One end up the nose, the other in your mouth. Don’t forget to spit before you have to swallow.

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        Maybe instead think about what you’d have to do with the receptacle that all this snot would wind up in once it’s full.

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        when you go to the dentist, the dentist and/or hygenist will usually work with two tools. If they need to rinse your teeth, they’ll first blast them with some ice cold water, and then they’ll stick a straw-looking thing in your mouth to suck up the water they just skeeted in. Similarly, when they’re drilling your teeth, they’ll use the little straw fellow to suck up the tooth dust so you don’t get weird shit in your lungs.

        It’s like an oral shop vac, where your mouth is the mess. They use them so they don’t have to stop and let you spit. OP has Problems™ and wants to stick one of these things in their nose.

        OP, please, just blow your nose or take a decongestant if you’re sick (NOT oral phenylephrine because that shit is useless). If you avoid blowing your nose because you get bloody noses all the time you can actually get that part of the inside of your nose cauterized. I used to get at least one nosebleed a day, and it was genuinely life changing for child me when the doctor stuck that swab in my nose. It was painful for a sec or two, but I only get nosebleeds once or twice a year now.

        EDIT: netti pots are good, just make sure you practice good hygiene with those. Very hot and steamy showers and putting damp heat on your sinuses is also quite helpful in my experience as a lifelong severe allergy sufferer.

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          Ohhhh, the title made it sound like their dentist puts some suction thing on their nose and I just couldn’t understand what they meant.

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            I can definitely see how that’d be someone’s first thought. In general this is just a weird-ass question lol.

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        I just asked copilot. The salt water has a couple of benefits over pure water; it’s less irritating to mucous membranes, it thins mucus more effectively, and it has modest antimicrobial effects.

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        I use the neilmed sinus rinse almost every day and it has been life-changing. Last time I got sick there was no stuffy nose or runny anything because I just cleaned it all out it was phenomenal.

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        My guess would be that the hypertonicity of the salt water causes water to move out of your nose’s tissues through osmosis, reducing swelling, while the water clears out the mucus and stuff clogging it up.

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          Isotonic is what you’re shooting for. Hyper- or hypotonic will cause discomfort. You can buy saline packets from any pharmacy, mix those with a specified amount of distilled water and you’ll have the correct concentration with minimal extra bits (which you’ll get a lot of with tap water… don’t use tap water).

          Done correctly and applied at roughly the same temp as your body, you’ll barely feel it in your sinuses.

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            Isotonic is good for routine use, but hypertonic doesn’t burn that bad if you’re really congested. I’ve used 2 neilmed packets before in my 8 oz water when I had viral nasal infection (as the instructions suggest) and didn’t experience burning. However if I’m not congested like this, hypertonic will burn.

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        Pure water would be bad, but salt somehow works, just like going to the beach (even if you are thousands of miles away:-D).

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    using that suction on your nose would really irritate your lining of your nose

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      Depends on your motherboard, try (one at a time):

      F12 Del F10 F2

      If you get into the UEFI/BIOS there’ll be an option to permanently set it.